1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:10,080 It began when an unknown man from Denmark approached me with a proposition. 2 00:00:11,240 --> 00:00:15,080 This is him in his tiny apartment in the outskirts of Copenhagen. 3 00:00:16,640 --> 00:00:18,428 If this was a piece of fiction, 4 00:00:18,429 --> 00:00:20,588 no-one would believe that he would be meeting 5 00:00:20,589 --> 00:00:22,908 with North Korean arms dealers in Africa... 6 00:00:22,909 --> 00:00:25,028 You can walk in here no problem. 7 00:00:25,029 --> 00:00:27,428 ...Or going to the North Korean embassy in Sweden 8 00:00:27,429 --> 00:00:29,459 to pick up secret documents. 9 00:00:29,460 --> 00:00:32,908 If something happened, embassy does know nothing about this. 10 00:00:32,909 --> 00:00:35,068 Exactly. 11 00:00:35,069 --> 00:00:36,580 But this is no fiction. 12 00:00:36,829 --> 00:00:39,028 Everything you are about to see is real, 13 00:00:39,029 --> 00:00:41,280 and has been going on for more than ten years. 14 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,188 This is him aged 14, somewhere in Denmark. 15 00:00:49,189 --> 00:00:51,140 He is celebrating his birthday. 16 00:00:51,389 --> 00:00:53,308 Among the guests are children who grew up 17 00:00:53,309 --> 00:00:56,240 in the communist dictatorship East Germany. 18 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:01,508 Many years later, as a grown man, he will claim that 19 00:01:01,509 --> 00:01:04,348 befriending these kids and learning about the horrors 20 00:01:04,349 --> 00:01:09,588 of a totalitarian regime made him decide to infiltrate and expose 21 00:01:09,589 --> 00:01:11,960 the most brutal dictatorship of all... 22 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:17,980 North Korea. 23 00:01:24,000 --> 00:01:28,108 It's a nice explanation, if true, but exactly why he chose to place himself 24 00:01:28,109 --> 00:01:31,978 in mortal danger is also beside the point. 25 00:01:31,979 --> 00:01:35,580 What only matters here is that he is a mole. 26 00:02:41,230 --> 00:02:45,338 In the end, I had to hire an expert to help me sort it out. 27 00:02:45,339 --> 00:02:48,938 Annie Machon is a contentious figure in the intelligence world, 28 00:02:48,939 --> 00:02:50,898 but this does not concern me. 29 00:02:50,899 --> 00:02:55,058 I am only interested in her skills in debriefing agents. 30 00:02:55,059 --> 00:03:00,550 So, Annie, the mole arrived last night? 31 00:03:01,550 --> 00:03:03,750 And soon he's ready for you? 32 00:03:05,710 --> 00:03:07,150 Do you have concerns? 33 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:15,390 Maybe... we should discuss that after you have met the mole. 34 00:03:23,550 --> 00:03:25,058 Hi, Ulrich. I'm Annie. 35 00:03:25,059 --> 00:03:27,260 - Hi, Annie. Nice to meet you. - Nice to meet you, too. 36 00:03:27,830 --> 00:03:30,298 I used to work for the British Security Service, 37 00:03:30,299 --> 00:03:34,258 otherwise known as MI5, and part of my job as an intelligence officer 38 00:03:34,259 --> 00:03:36,058 was to debrief agents. 39 00:03:36,059 --> 00:03:38,978 So the film team has asked me in to debrief you 40 00:03:38,979 --> 00:03:41,378 about your life over the last ten years. 41 00:03:41,379 --> 00:03:42,379 Yes. 42 00:03:42,488 --> 00:03:45,860 Can you tell me a little bit more about him? His background? 43 00:03:48,030 --> 00:03:50,658 You know, if he would rob a bank, 44 00:03:50,659 --> 00:03:53,590 you would not be able to describe him. 45 00:03:57,470 --> 00:03:59,308 - He blends in. - He blends in. 46 00:03:59,309 --> 00:04:00,330 Perfect. 47 00:04:01,110 --> 00:04:04,298 So, how did you get interested in North Korea? 48 00:04:04,299 --> 00:04:06,070 Oh, it's a long story. 49 00:04:07,950 --> 00:04:10,618 It is a long story, so I will speed it up. 50 00:04:10,619 --> 00:04:14,658 Back in 2006, as a journalist from Denmark, I went to North Korea 51 00:04:14,659 --> 00:04:18,298 and shot a documentary called The Red Chapel. 52 00:04:18,299 --> 00:04:21,058 The regime in Pyongyang really hated my film, 53 00:04:21,059 --> 00:04:25,138 and because of that, I can never travel back to North Korea. 54 00:04:25,139 --> 00:04:28,458 Seen from a western point of view, the film has its moments, 55 00:04:28,459 --> 00:04:31,178 but it does not offer up the smoking gun, 56 00:04:31,179 --> 00:04:34,578 the irrefutable proof that North Korea is an evil 57 00:04:34,579 --> 00:04:36,550 and criminal enterprise. 58 00:04:37,830 --> 00:04:40,978 Ever since, I have been on a quest to prove these points, 59 00:04:40,979 --> 00:04:44,220 yet being forever banned from the Chamber of Secrets. 60 00:04:45,990 --> 00:04:50,818 But back in Denmark, the man who I prefer to call the mole saw my film, 61 00:04:50,819 --> 00:04:53,738 and somehow it gave him the idea that he could travel 62 00:04:53,739 --> 00:04:55,870 to North Korea in my place. 63 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,950 Why not? Just go, and... 64 00:04:59,960 --> 00:05:01,790 Then I... 65 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,230 ...wrote an e-mail to Mads. 66 00:05:07,620 --> 00:05:12,898 Approximately ten years ago, out of nowhere, he wrote and asked 67 00:05:12,899 --> 00:05:17,018 if I would be interested in doing a film about him 68 00:05:17,019 --> 00:05:21,980 infiltrating the Danish North Korean Friendship Association. 69 00:05:26,590 --> 00:05:28,138 So-- I mean, what happened? 70 00:05:28,139 --> 00:05:31,818 Can you talk me through exactly the first steps you took in this, 71 00:05:31,819 --> 00:05:34,710 and the sort of thought process you were going through? 72 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,590 - You mean with the Korean Friendship...? - Yes. 73 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:45,030 I found the Danish Friendship Association, and the chairman, Anders Kristensen. 74 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:50,110 He invited me to the first public meeting three weeks later. 75 00:05:50,920 --> 00:05:53,310 And he was the only person in the room when I came up, - 76 00:05:53,640 --> 00:05:56,870 - trying to put up a North Korean flag. 77 00:05:58,840 --> 00:06:02,350 And I went like I normally do, go and say hello, shake hands. 78 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,390 I had such a... You know, very... 79 00:06:05,680 --> 00:06:09,310 It was not even a handshake, it was very like the hands slipped away. 80 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:11,590 OK, is this a man or...? 81 00:06:11,880 --> 00:06:13,390 - A jellyfish? - Yes. 82 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:17,310 He was quite fast to tell people that this is a new member. 83 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:22,390 North Korea yesterday at 11:57 local time carried out their third nuclear bomb test. 84 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:24,990 The blast was significantly more powerful than - 85 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,990 - the previous tests from 2006 and 2009. 86 00:06:28,550 --> 00:06:34,618 I told him it could be of interest if it would evolve to something 87 00:06:34,619 --> 00:06:36,778 of international importance, 88 00:06:36,779 --> 00:06:40,978 because the Danish North Korean Friendship Association in itself 89 00:06:40,979 --> 00:06:44,690 is a fairly depressing group of people. 90 00:06:47,660 --> 00:06:50,618 He said, "Please keep me posted if it's interesting," 91 00:06:50,619 --> 00:06:52,030 and I was like, "Okay." 92 00:06:53,670 --> 00:06:58,258 I also told him, "I will never be able to pay you any money," 93 00:06:58,259 --> 00:07:01,458 so that is not of importance for him, 94 00:07:01,459 --> 00:07:03,110 and then he just kept on going. 95 00:07:04,790 --> 00:07:08,418 The mole went down the rabbit hole and discovered a bizarre world 96 00:07:08,419 --> 00:07:12,910 of Danish senior citizens who are true friends of North Korea. 97 00:07:16,390 --> 00:07:19,258 Slowly but surely, the mole advanced in the hierarchy 98 00:07:19,259 --> 00:07:21,218 and became a member of the board, 99 00:07:21,219 --> 00:07:23,858 working under chairman Anders Kristensen, 100 00:07:23,859 --> 00:07:25,350 a die-hard communist. 101 00:07:26,990 --> 00:07:29,898 Here you have him back in his heyday, meeting with 102 00:07:29,899 --> 00:07:33,498 the founder of North Korea, Eternal President Kim Il-sung, 103 00:07:33,499 --> 00:07:36,230 grandfather of the current ruler, Kim Jong-un. 104 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,470 You can hang it up now. 105 00:07:43,870 --> 00:07:47,458 All the time, the mole was filming, the excuse being that he was 106 00:07:47,459 --> 00:07:51,750 making movies for YouTube about his work as a board member. 107 00:08:13,270 --> 00:08:17,138 So, how did things progress for you once you were a member, 108 00:08:17,139 --> 00:08:18,190 and on the board? 109 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,750 Well, my biggest wish was to visit North Korea, of course, - 110 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:26,910 - and to come there, you need to be a part of an Association. 111 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,710 Ulrich, who is filming, is a member of the board. 112 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:32,919 He is making a film about the association's work. 113 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:36,110 He will also join our trip to Korea, where we will travel in about one week. 114 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,590 When we arrive, we take a group picture there. 115 00:08:48,600 --> 00:08:49,870 For the newspaper. 116 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:55,470 - Is it clear? - Yeah. 117 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:56,480 Ok. 118 00:09:10,790 --> 00:09:12,778 The mole went to North Korea, 119 00:09:12,779 --> 00:09:15,270 and the North Koreans took a liking to him. 120 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:21,258 His main contact person in North Korea was a man named Kang, 121 00:09:21,259 --> 00:09:23,710 who works for the Ministry of Cultural Affairs. 122 00:09:24,280 --> 00:09:27,470 - Everything under control? - Yeah, yeah. 123 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:31,070 Always in Korea, everything is in control. 124 00:09:32,710 --> 00:09:36,910 Kang is a key person in this tale of deceit and intrigue. 125 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:43,150 We trust you and we really treat you as friends. 126 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,710 - Yes. - But... 127 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:51,510 You have to understand that there are places which are sensitive... 128 00:09:51,760 --> 00:09:56,830 And maybe the spies are interested in this kind of places. 129 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,270 These are military places. 130 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,190 So all the Korean people are very alert... 131 00:10:04,920 --> 00:10:09,550 Hello, hello... 132 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:15,030 Hello... Hi... Nice meeting you. 133 00:10:15,110 --> 00:10:19,738 Everywhere he went in North Korea, the mole was filming. 134 00:10:19,739 --> 00:10:23,538 Of course, he also brought his camera when he was awarded a medal, 135 00:10:23,539 --> 00:10:25,710 recognising his work for the regime. 136 00:10:29,390 --> 00:10:31,940 - Okay, congratulations. - Thank you. 137 00:10:33,270 --> 00:10:35,755 So when did things really start to move? 138 00:10:35,756 --> 00:10:37,590 When I was in North Korea in 2012, - 139 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:41,590 - I met a Spanish person named Alejandro Cao de Bends. 140 00:10:42,060 --> 00:10:44,550 Could you confirm that this is a photograph of him? 141 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:46,630 - That's him. - Yeah? 142 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,390 He's the president of the Korean Friendship Association — KFA. 143 00:10:51,040 --> 00:10:54,990 And according to himself there are hundreds of thousands of members around the world. 144 00:10:56,750 --> 00:10:59,338 Amongst the friends of the regime in Pyongyang, 145 00:10:59,339 --> 00:11:02,270 Alejandro Cao de Benos is the biggest friend. 146 00:11:04,420 --> 00:11:05,618 Compared to a small group 147 00:11:05,619 --> 00:11:08,620 such as the Danish North Korean Friendship Association, 148 00:11:08,836 --> 00:11:12,778 the Korean Friendship Association is the international lodge 149 00:11:12,779 --> 00:11:16,190 for people who consider North Korea to be heaven on Earth. 150 00:11:19,790 --> 00:11:21,658 Alejandro Cao de Benos is the founder 151 00:11:21,659 --> 00:11:23,778 of the Korean Friendship Association 152 00:11:23,779 --> 00:11:28,110 and is known around the world as the gatekeeper of North Korea. 153 00:11:31,030 --> 00:11:35,218 As such, Alejandro Cao de Benos was my tour guide and access ticket 154 00:11:35,219 --> 00:11:38,698 when I travelled to North Korea back in 2006. 155 00:11:38,699 --> 00:11:42,458 Here, we are posing for a North Korean newspaper. 156 00:11:42,459 --> 00:11:46,378 Spending time with him, I found it hard to understand why Alejandro, 157 00:11:46,379 --> 00:11:48,938 who was born in Spain and lives in Spain, 158 00:11:48,939 --> 00:11:52,510 has chosen a life as a cheerleader for North Korea. 159 00:11:55,310 --> 00:11:58,578 According to the UN, North Korea starves, abuses 160 00:11:58,579 --> 00:12:01,938 and kills its own citizens on a daily basis, 161 00:12:01,939 --> 00:12:05,870 but Alejandro Cao de Benos considers all that to be fake news. 162 00:12:07,520 --> 00:12:12,150 You are aware of the reports from the UN and Amnesty International, which are very tough? 163 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:15,619 Yes, because they are being used as propaganda tools. 164 00:12:15,620 --> 00:12:20,538 I also discovered that his preferred foods are French pastry and candies, 165 00:12:20,539 --> 00:12:25,098 which is, I guess, the perfect diet for a supervillain. 166 00:12:25,099 --> 00:12:26,950 Do you think Alejandro's dangerous? 167 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:30,310 Yes, I do. Especially when he is in North Korea. 168 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,990 Because he has the power to react to things he doesn't like. 169 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:40,710 He is a small dictator in his own universe. 170 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:03,150 "A bill to the progressive peoples of the World." 171 00:13:03,160 --> 00:13:04,910 Alejandro Cao de Bends, - 172 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:10,270 - can we say that you are the only Westerner who easily enters North Korea? 173 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:13,070 And who represents North Korea? The only Westerner in the world? 174 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,070 Yes the first and only Westerner. 175 00:13:15,100 --> 00:13:17,298 You're a Spanish aristocrat 176 00:13:17,299 --> 00:13:20,590 representing the North Korean regime. What's in it for you? 177 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:26,190 Well, it's a long story of 30 years, but although I come from an aristocratic family, - 178 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:29,990 - I'm just the son of a worker. So I wanted to contribute - 179 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,130 - to the construction of a socialist country. 180 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,590 I created the Korean Friendship Association, so I could facilitate - 181 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:40,190 - the meeting and the bridge between North Korea and the rest of the countries in the world. 182 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,190 Good evening, Mr. Cao de Bends. 183 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:51,070 North Korea just wants to guarantee its survival and future. 184 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,470 The only way to do that is developing a nuclear defense. 185 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,470 There will be no world without Korea. 186 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:02,070 If North Korea is attacked nuclearly by the United States, - 187 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:04,510 - the world will end as we know it. 188 00:14:04,760 --> 00:14:08,710 Hail comrade Kim Il-sung! 189 00:14:16,190 --> 00:14:20,258 So you meet him in Pyongyang, and then you go back to Europe, 190 00:14:20,259 --> 00:14:23,790 - and then your second meeting is when you go to Spain. - Yeah. 191 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:30,630 Hello. 192 00:14:30,640 --> 00:14:33,470 We are here in Barcelona, in front of Hotel Astoria, - 193 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:38,430 - and we just had a wonderful meeting with our colleague Ulrich, - 194 00:14:38,440 --> 00:14:40,670 - discussing matters of interest. 195 00:14:42,830 --> 00:14:44,950 Can you tell me a little bit about that meeting? 196 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:48,630 It was in a small hotel in the outskirts of Barcelona, - 197 00:14:49,160 --> 00:14:52,470 - and we talked like two or three hours... 198 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:54,910 ...of course a lot about North Korea, and... 199 00:14:55,960 --> 00:15:01,310 I just had a great meeting with the Spanish comrade, Alejandro Cao de Bends. 200 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,070 Then he starts telling me about Anders. 201 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:09,750 He is well informed about what Anders has done throughout the years. 202 00:15:09,760 --> 00:15:14,230 It is clear that he does not evolve, nor does he bring forth any new efforts. 203 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:16,670 I agree with his assertion. 204 00:15:16,910 --> 00:15:18,940 So what did Alejandro want from you? 205 00:15:18,941 --> 00:15:24,030 He then wanted me to be the "official delegate" - 206 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,670 - at the KFA in Denmark. 207 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:32,510 That is why I quietly start my own KFA Denmark. 208 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:37,390 Where I of course am appointed by Alejandro. 209 00:15:38,200 --> 00:15:40,870 I will be one of his closest. 210 00:15:40,880 --> 00:15:44,550 Also internationally, he wants me to establish some contacts. 211 00:15:52,910 --> 00:15:55,698 And so the mole began channelling his way through 212 00:15:55,699 --> 00:15:59,578 the Korean Friendship Association, hoping to find the secrets 213 00:15:59,579 --> 00:16:02,380 of this global club for friends of Pyongyang. 214 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:05,630 Long live our Supreme Commander Kim Jong-un. 215 00:16:11,200 --> 00:16:14,510 The last speech: Ulrich Larsen. 216 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:18,110 Comrade Ulrich, I think you have a speech on behalf of KFA Denmark? 217 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:23,550 My name is Ulrich Larsen, and I'm the new branch of KFA in Denmark. 218 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:27,310 And I'm really happy to be here and to speak at this annual meeting. 219 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:30,590 Jonas, can you film us here, while we say hi? 220 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:34,550 - Yes, fine. - Just don't cover... 221 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,990 - Full body. - Don't cover the portraits. 222 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:43,430 Alejandro, good to see you again. Very pleased to be here. Always, you know. 223 00:16:44,180 --> 00:16:47,698 Advised by me, the mole had a professional cameraman 224 00:16:47,699 --> 00:16:51,750 enrolled in KFA Denmark as his personal assistant. 225 00:16:56,070 --> 00:16:59,030 Is Alejandro aware of the personal aspects of your life? 226 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,070 Yeah. 227 00:17:01,320 --> 00:17:03,670 And I think that's one of the reasons he wants me, too; - 228 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:08,990 - because he thinks I have a lot of time to be the North Korean man in Scandinavia. 229 00:17:09,830 --> 00:17:14,698 A lot of time because, in his real life, the mole is a retired chef 230 00:17:14,699 --> 00:17:17,178 who lives on welfare subsidies from the government 231 00:17:17,179 --> 00:17:19,298 because of some sort of chronic disease 232 00:17:19,299 --> 00:17:21,178 which prevents him from working. 233 00:17:21,179 --> 00:17:24,218 He is married with children and resides in the suburbs 234 00:17:24,219 --> 00:17:27,978 of Copenhagen, living a seemingly normal life. 235 00:17:27,979 --> 00:17:31,420 As such, he is the best mole you could ever want. 236 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:39,870 It's a long fight against the Danish media; - 237 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,590 - whenever they have the chance to print imperialistic propaganda... 238 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:48,350 Actually, many of the persons in the KFA are unemployed. 239 00:17:48,600 --> 00:17:51,350 ...Leader Kim Jong-Il always thought the best and... 240 00:17:51,360 --> 00:17:53,510 The Eternal President Kim Il-sung... 241 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:56,630 ...Kim Jong-il as the Supreme Commander of the Korean People's Army... 242 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,550 ...Leader Kim Il-sung had to... 243 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,190 I think they find something unique with him, - 244 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:09,670 - because he makes them feel welcome. 245 00:18:10,720 --> 00:18:12,830 - Everyone loves a cause. - Exactly. 246 00:18:32,120 --> 00:18:35,430 Let us become more proud and grow more strong, - 247 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:41,470 - until we achieve the Final Victory! Thank you! 248 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:54,150 I participated in annual meetings in the KFA around Europe. 249 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,030 I'm calling Ulrich Larsen, our official delegate in Denmark. 250 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,510 Ulrich, please show your medal. 251 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:12,070 Then, two years after, I was the KFA delegate of Scandinavia. So he gave me four countries. 252 00:19:12,620 --> 00:19:14,870 That's quite a quick leap up. 253 00:19:14,871 --> 00:19:16,550 - It went quite fast, yes. 254 00:19:16,820 --> 00:19:19,350 So what were your responsibilities in that? 255 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:24,630 He of course wanted me to react to the media, if they... 256 00:19:24,640 --> 00:19:28,590 You know, all the lies, in... Seen with North Korean eyes. 257 00:19:29,110 --> 00:19:32,070 This is Ulrich out of Copenhagen. Here's what he had to say. 258 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:35,830 In North Korea, you have many good things that you never see. 259 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,550 I just came back here a month ago, and I was surprised to see - 260 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:44,670 - how bright the future looks for the North Koreans. 261 00:19:45,390 --> 00:19:47,418 So, Andre, he's really picking up on that theme 262 00:19:47,419 --> 00:19:49,740 that Dermot had about a smear against North Korea. 263 00:19:55,520 --> 00:20:03,190 Jonas he is making small video clips, and we'll put up one on Facebook which you all can share. 264 00:20:16,750 --> 00:20:20,818 Do you happen to know if he's told his wife what he was doing? 265 00:20:20,819 --> 00:20:22,090 I don't think so. 266 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:26,830 When you are in North Korea, - 267 00:20:26,840 --> 00:20:29,470 - people smell bad. 268 00:20:30,400 --> 00:20:33,790 Not bad in that way, but their perfumes are rather... 269 00:20:35,440 --> 00:20:37,670 ...they smell a lot of alcohol. 270 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:40,190 And I was lucky to get one of these from my father. 271 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,430 So I made it into a tradition, when I'm out with them, - 272 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,230 - in this context, - 273 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:51,030 - I spray myself before the meetings, so the smell gives me some sort of - 274 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:57,390 - signal that I'm now under North Korea's banner. 275 00:21:04,100 --> 00:21:07,590 What did your wife say when you went home smelling of that strange scent? 276 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:09,510 She is told another story. 277 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,710 I couldn't tell her the truth, because then she wouldn't let me go. 278 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:22,990 - It's Sasha. - Hi. 279 00:21:23,600 --> 00:21:24,600 - Hi. - Hi. 280 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:27,590 - What's up? - We are done for today. 281 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:32,150 I'm tired, it's been a long day of meetings - 282 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,550 - with a lot of funny information. 283 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:36,910 Yeah, OK. 284 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,270 The kids are happy? 285 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:41,110 Yes, we have been to Tivoli Gardens today. 286 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:42,830 Okay. 287 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,310 They were having a good time. 288 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:45,320 Good. 289 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,160 - Yes, yes. - I'll call you later. 290 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:49,030 Talk to you tomorrow? 291 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:51,270 - Okay. - That's fine. 292 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,190 - Goodbye. - Bye. 293 00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:10,710 Why does Alejandro like the mole? What does he see in the mole? 294 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:17,299 He wants me to find people who would like to invest money in North Korea. 295 00:22:17,300 --> 00:22:21,818 Alejandro Cao de Benos begins putting pressure on the mole. 296 00:22:21,819 --> 00:22:25,458 He wants him to source for businessmen who will invest 297 00:22:25,459 --> 00:22:26,938 in North Korea. 298 00:22:26,939 --> 00:22:31,378 So the main part, really, is raising business and investment. 299 00:22:31,379 --> 00:22:35,058 In a debriefing filmed in Denmark back in 2013, 300 00:22:35,059 --> 00:22:39,618 the mole was already talking about KFA president Alejandro Cao de Benos 301 00:22:39,619 --> 00:22:41,950 wanting him to find investors. 302 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:51,520 He started talking about three investment projects in North Korea. 303 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,830 - What kind? - He doesn't say. 304 00:22:55,840 --> 00:23:00,470 He's looking for capital from 50.000 to 1 million Euro. 305 00:23:01,670 --> 00:23:04,178 But investing in North Korea is tricky business 306 00:23:04,179 --> 00:23:06,698 because of the tough UN sanctions 307 00:23:06,699 --> 00:23:09,818 levelled against the cash-starved regime. 308 00:23:09,819 --> 00:23:12,138 The new sanctions include a ban on exports of 309 00:23:12,139 --> 00:23:16,298 North Korean goods such as machinery and electrical equipment. 310 00:23:16,299 --> 00:23:19,298 Since no-one in their right mind would throw money at North Korea, 311 00:23:19,299 --> 00:23:24,378 I decided to invent a fake investor in order for the mole to find out 312 00:23:24,379 --> 00:23:27,418 what exactly Alejandro Cao de Benos had in mind. 313 00:23:27,419 --> 00:23:31,830 I forgot to mention there is another person involved in this. 314 00:23:34,230 --> 00:23:36,338 That person is Mr. James. 315 00:23:36,339 --> 00:23:37,858 His real name is Jim, 316 00:23:37,859 --> 00:23:41,618 and he was chosen by me to perform the role as Mr. James, 317 00:23:41,619 --> 00:23:43,790 a man of international mystery. 318 00:23:45,470 --> 00:23:48,858 In real life, Jim is a former member of the French Foreign Legion 319 00:23:48,859 --> 00:23:53,870 who later went on to become a jet-set cocaine pusher in Copenhagen. 320 00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:57,898 In the end, he was caught and served eight years in jail, 321 00:23:57,899 --> 00:24:01,190 and now works and lives as a legitimate businessman. 322 00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:05,950 In my mind, he was tailor-made for extreme role-playing. 323 00:24:14,110 --> 00:24:17,538 So I had the mole invite Alejandro to come to Oslo in Norway 324 00:24:17,539 --> 00:24:19,938 for meeting with the man of his dreams, 325 00:24:19,939 --> 00:24:23,978 Mr. James, a dapper Scandinavian oil billionaire. 326 00:24:23,979 --> 00:24:25,150 So how did you set it up? 327 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:28,070 At that moment, I had known James for five hours. 328 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,190 I met him in the airport in the morning, and we... 329 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:34,510 We didn't even sit together in the plane. 330 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:38,830 The plan was that I should introduce Alejandro to James, - 331 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:40,390 - and James to Alejandro. 332 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,400 - And then just sit back and watch? - Yes, exactly. 333 00:24:44,710 --> 00:24:47,098 What kind of investments into North Korea 334 00:24:47,099 --> 00:24:51,110 would President Alejandro Cao de Benos have on offer for Mr. James? 335 00:25:05,070 --> 00:25:06,110 Go. 336 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:09,910 Whew! I hope it goes well. 337 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,990 - You're used to it, I'm not. - Of course. 338 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:17,470 Whew! I'm nervous. 339 00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:26,630 - Two seconds, come in! - Hi, thanks. 340 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:28,230 I just need to take this. 341 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:31,550 - Sit. - OK. Thank you. 342 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:43,590 Sorry for that. OK. A pleasure to meet you. 343 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:46,070 Thank you for coming. 344 00:25:46,080 --> 00:25:50,030 This is Alejandro, the President of KFA. 345 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:54,510 I'm a special lead of the Government of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, - 346 00:25:54,520 --> 00:25:56,679 - in charge of international relations. - Thank you very much. 347 00:25:56,680 --> 00:26:01,990 I would have loved to give you my card, but my suitcase is still in Kuala Lumpur... 348 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:06,670 - But we will send it to you by mail. - No problem. 349 00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:08,378 Sorry, just to interrupt, 350 00:26:08,379 --> 00:26:11,458 but what sort of cover story had you developed for James? 351 00:26:11,459 --> 00:26:14,178 I mean, Alejandro presumably would have done some checking 352 00:26:14,179 --> 00:26:15,750 on the background of James. 353 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,470 I think he really just wanted things to happen, and he wasn't... 354 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,070 He was thinking about having something for the Koreans, - 355 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:24,630 - so he could reach an even higher level in North Korea. 356 00:26:24,740 --> 00:26:27,215 So he didn't need to know the name of this oil billionaire? 357 00:26:27,216 --> 00:26:29,950 - No, I just told him his name was James. - Huh! 358 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:34,830 I work for an investment family. 359 00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:40,390 Until now, our investments have been in oil, gas, - 360 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:44,150 - weapons, metal, pharmaceuticals, - 361 00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:48,390 - but our minimum investment is fifty million Euros... 362 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:50,550 - Five-zero? - Yes, five-zero. 363 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:54,990 ...because otherwise, the revenue is not interesting. 364 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:01,710 I have contacts up to Marshall Kim Jong-un, 365 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:05,750 - so, if necessary, I can report directly to the maximal authority - 366 00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:07,950 - to our Great Leader Kim Jong-un - in the country. 367 00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:12,310 We are under very heavy sanctions, as you may know, from the United Nations, - 368 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,990 - especially enforced by the United States. 369 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,110 So we have a parallel way to do things. 370 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,870 We have companies in China, Southeast Asia, Malaysia and other countries, - 371 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,310 - for making all kinds of transactions. 372 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:32,990 So they follow sanctions in the UN, in front of the TV, but in reality, they just look the other way. 373 00:27:33,140 --> 00:27:36,030 Did he discuss what types of business he would be looking for? 374 00:27:36,031 --> 00:27:38,430 Yeah. And it didn't take - 375 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:42,590 - many minutes before Alejandro started talking about that - 376 00:27:42,600 --> 00:27:46,150 - they could produce anything in North Korea, - 377 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:49,630 - which he likes to call the DPR of Korea, or DPRK. 378 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,990 Our advantage is that the DPRK is the only country in the world - 379 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:56,310 - where we don't need to follow any rules from anyone. 380 00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,350 Whatever you do in DPRK, remains in DPRK. 381 00:28:00,360 --> 00:28:03,390 Nobody can touch your accounts, your assets... 382 00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:06,750 Even if you are followed by Interpol, we are not even members of Interpol. 383 00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:10,030 So we can do things that no other country can do. 384 00:28:14,360 --> 00:28:17,910 We are developing things in the pharmaceutical industry - 385 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,390 - which are forbidden in any other country in the world. 386 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,930 A pharmaceutical company in Canada requested me... 387 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,270 ...that we produce something in DPRK. 388 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:33,550 But this "something" is basically the same as methamphetamine. 389 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,710 It's methamphetamine, for the drug market. 390 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,030 So, the issues that... 391 00:28:39,640 --> 00:28:43,990 They sent me the formula, and I checked with our capital, - 392 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,830 - and of course we have all the knowledge to produce even that. 393 00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,390 Weapons is actually our main... 394 00:28:55,480 --> 00:29:01,190 But the problem with weapons at the moment is a very complicated subject. 395 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:06,390 But, weapons! We can build submarine factories, tank factories... 396 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:11,270 From the first screw of the tank to the last one is made in DPRK. 397 00:29:11,280 --> 00:29:14,430 Missiles. All made in DPRK. We sell our missiles to Iran. 398 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,870 Iran doesn't have our technology. 399 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:20,470 Iran only has medium-range missiles. 400 00:29:20,740 --> 00:29:24,950 We have intercontinental ballistic missiles that can reach any part of the world. So... 401 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:29,910 OK, OK. That one we definitely have to... I'm just taking notes. 402 00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:34,550 I can facilitate you direct contacts with any kind of our state companies, - 403 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:36,510 - or any department or ministry in the country. 404 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,310 This is no problem for me. Anytime, I can issue the visas. 405 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:42,550 I can prepare at all levels, with all our ministers. 406 00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:46,350 So, through me, you are now in direct contact with the country. 407 00:29:48,390 --> 00:29:51,258 Meeting with President Alejandro Cao de Benos in Oslo 408 00:29:51,259 --> 00:29:54,978 gave a whole new perspective on the Korean Friendship Association 409 00:29:54,979 --> 00:29:58,818 because, officially, the KFA is a peaceful organisation 410 00:29:58,819 --> 00:30:02,618 which works to promote North Korean culture, history and values 411 00:30:02,619 --> 00:30:05,340 through its members in more than 30 different countries... 412 00:30:07,790 --> 00:30:11,058 including the official delegate for all of Scandinavia, 413 00:30:11,059 --> 00:30:12,590 the mole. 414 00:30:13,630 --> 00:30:15,538 Was the KFA really being used 415 00:30:15,539 --> 00:30:19,178 as a front for dealing with weapons and drugs from North Korea, 416 00:30:19,179 --> 00:30:22,418 with Alejandro as the spider in the web? 417 00:30:22,419 --> 00:30:26,618 Or was Alejandro Cao de Benos playing us in order to get to 418 00:30:26,619 --> 00:30:29,058 the deep pockets of Mr. James? 419 00:30:29,059 --> 00:30:31,099 And who was Alejandro really? 420 00:30:31,100 --> 00:30:34,938 Simply a buffoonish braggart acting as a useful idiot 421 00:30:34,939 --> 00:30:36,978 for the regime in Pyongyang? 422 00:30:36,979 --> 00:30:39,818 Or was he a highly connected and sophisticated 423 00:30:39,819 --> 00:30:41,670 international criminal? 424 00:30:45,150 --> 00:30:49,098 At last, the mole had found his real mission and true purpose. 425 00:30:49,099 --> 00:30:51,618 Follow the lead of Alejandro Cao de Benos 426 00:30:51,619 --> 00:30:53,230 and see where it takes us. 427 00:30:56,630 --> 00:30:58,590 So, what happened after this meeting? 428 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,190 When Alejandro came back to Spain, he was arrested. 429 00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,390 - OK? - For arms dealing. 430 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:10,630 This is how Alejandro Cao de Bends reacted to our questions in front of the courthouse. 431 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,950 He was arrested yesterday in Tarragona in a police operation against arms trafficking. 432 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,750 I don't talk to the media. 433 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,430 Why? 434 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:20,950 Because you're a bunch of slanderers. 435 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,710 This is fake! Totally fake! 436 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,070 You're a bunch of slanderers! This is totally fake! 437 00:31:34,830 --> 00:31:38,138 For the first time ever, the brave soldiers of the KFA 438 00:31:38,139 --> 00:31:41,338 would have their annual meeting without their president. 439 00:31:41,339 --> 00:31:44,550 A perfect chance for the mole to rise in the ranks. 440 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:49,910 I'd like to welcome you all to the 2016 International KFA Conference. 441 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:54,590 Over the years, our organization has been viciously attacked by reactionaries. 442 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,150 This year's worst attack is towards our president, Alejandro. 443 00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:01,990 The Spanish fascist authorities are not letting him leave the country, - 444 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,230 - restricting his freedom of movement, and - 445 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,430 - accusing him of a crime he had not committed. 446 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:11,510 Maybe one day, they will understand that we are right, and that they are wrong. 447 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,560 But until then, keep on with the good job, comrades. 448 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:16,830 Thank you. 449 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,230 If it was not for comrade Alejandro, I would not be standing here today. 450 00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:32,030 I count on him for constantly believing in me, supporting me and guiding me. 451 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:36,190 In the future, I foresee more people of the West, just like me, - 452 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,830 - will realize that they live inside a broken and evil system. 453 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,470 And so they will open their eyes, and see what I see, - 454 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:45,830 - a dream which can come true. 455 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:48,550 Long live our Supreme General Kim Jong-un! 456 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:50,710 Korea is one! Thank you very much. 457 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:56,310 Korea is one! 458 00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,270 - Hello? - Hello, Alejandro, it's Ulrich. 459 00:33:03,280 --> 00:33:07,790 Whatever I can do to help you and KFA, just let me know, and I'll be there. 460 00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,630 Thank you. I trust you. 461 00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:15,310 All your work and your activities. 462 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:18,510 Not only me, of course, my comrades in Pyongyang, - 463 00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:22,350 - they know we don't have many very close friends like you. 464 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,590 There are only a few which are really close friends of the country. 465 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,190 I feel the same. I love you all in the KFA. 466 00:33:40,590 --> 00:33:43,818 Next, the mole and Mr. James went to Madrid in Spain 467 00:33:43,819 --> 00:33:46,510 to meet with Alejandro Cao de Benos. 468 00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:52,458 Through me, Mr. James had an order ready for North Korean weapons 469 00:33:52,459 --> 00:33:54,590 as well as methamphetamine. 470 00:33:59,150 --> 00:34:01,858 Would the president of the Korean Friendship Association 471 00:34:01,859 --> 00:34:03,298 be open for business, 472 00:34:03,299 --> 00:34:06,270 now that he was being investigated for arms trafficking? 473 00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:09,830 OK, good 474 00:34:15,280 --> 00:34:16,910 Comrade Ulrich! 475 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,790 I can see you. Hello! 476 00:34:23,990 --> 00:34:28,030 So, Alejandro took James entirely on trust, on your recommendation? 477 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:31,710 We needed to put up a story of how I know James. 478 00:34:32,230 --> 00:34:33,470 And what was that story? 479 00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:36,150 I'm educated as a chef, and... 480 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,950 ...I've been making food for some people where James was attending. 481 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:44,710 And he just asked me if I could cook for him, because he has a lot of parties... 482 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:47,470 So it was quite easy to get into that. 483 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:52,990 He's always busy. 484 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,430 I haven't seen him in a long time, only short telephone calls, e-mails... 485 00:34:59,160 --> 00:35:00,870 He doesn't reply. 486 00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:03,510 - Hey, my friend! - Once again. 487 00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:06,870 Good to see you! 488 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,310 Sit down. 489 00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:15,390 I'm continuously followed by different secret services from different countries. 490 00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,630 So they retained my passport. 491 00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:21,190 The order of the judge is that I cannot leave Spanish territory. 492 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:25,030 Because I had weapons, I had machine-guns and guns at home. 493 00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:29,190 And I always liked all kind of weapons. 494 00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,390 Who doesn't?! 495 00:35:34,550 --> 00:35:36,978 - So, at this meeting in Madrid... - Yeah? 496 00:35:36,979 --> 00:35:40,378 ...Does James give any ideas about why he wants, why he's interested 497 00:35:40,379 --> 00:35:42,030 in buying this sort of materiel? 498 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:46,910 Well, he likes to sell the weapons to the enemy of Israel, - 499 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,230 - which makes Alejandro quite happy. 500 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,830 Basically, it's the weapons we are interested in. 501 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:56,550 Hitting Israel is a way to say "Fuck you, USA" 502 00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,970 We need to sit down with the right people straight away. 503 00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:06,870 Our army are used to sell finished technology to governments. 504 00:36:06,880 --> 00:36:11,110 So it's going to be complicated to negotiate the sale of whatever; - 505 00:36:11,120 --> 00:36:13,910 - short or medium range missiles, with a private person. 506 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:15,390 But... 507 00:36:15,400 --> 00:36:19,670 Talking about chemistry and components that you need... 508 00:36:20,080 --> 00:36:22,110 ...that's easier. Because... 509 00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:28,510 ...we are kind of providing you with technology and experts that you "rent", - 510 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,910 - but we are not selling the finished product. 511 00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:32,830 Ah, OK. 512 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:34,750 So, OK, that's fine for me. 513 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:40,830 I can guarantee that you will have the meetings with the right people, - 514 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:46,750 - and that it is possible to bring those "scientists" overseas. 515 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,910 But, of course, the terms of negotiations is something you would have to arrange. 516 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:55,470 But actually, you will be received by my closest comrade. 517 00:36:55,800 --> 00:37:00,150 And he knows what you are going to be discussing. 518 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:03,710 He knows him also, comrade Ulrich, because he is Kang Jum-ju. 519 00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:08,390 Mr. Kang Jum-ju will be waiting for you in the airport and arrange everything, - 520 00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,030 - to talk with the right people. 521 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:11,840 From now on - 522 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,510 - we are on thin ice. 523 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:16,830 - We have to be very careful. - Yes. 524 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,830 But, that said... 525 00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:21,910 ...there's lot of money to be made. 526 00:37:22,030 --> 00:37:24,168 - At this point, he's stuck in Spain-- - Yeah. 527 00:37:24,169 --> 00:37:25,418 ...for legal reasons. 528 00:37:25,419 --> 00:37:28,140 But he can organise your trip with James to North Korea. 529 00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:33,750 We agreed to go to North Korea in January 2017. 530 00:37:35,790 --> 00:37:37,858 Going on a secret mission to North Korea 531 00:37:37,859 --> 00:37:40,338 calls for careful planning, 532 00:37:40,339 --> 00:37:44,298 so I had my first in-person meeting with the mole and Mr. James together, 533 00:37:44,299 --> 00:37:46,698 making sure that Mr. James especially 534 00:37:46,699 --> 00:37:49,430 knew the most important rules of the game. 535 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:55,550 Let's start on a banal level, but gifts are important. 536 00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:59,790 And one of the best gifts in North Korea is Hennessy Cognac. 537 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:04,070 You should at least bring one bottle each. 538 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:09,030 Another important thing is: Never to make fun of - 539 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,390 - The Great Leader, The Dear Leader, The Young General. 540 00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,630 Never make fun of any of the Kims. 541 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,670 You will be in situations where you feel like making a funny remark. 542 00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,950 - Don't go there. - OK. 543 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:28,430 It's a very militarized culture, and it's a very alcoholized culture. 544 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,830 There is hardly a country in the world where they drink as much as in North Korea. 545 00:38:33,880 --> 00:38:38,590 If you're a bad drinker: someone who loses control when drunk, - 546 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,630 - then you shouldn't go to North Korea. 547 00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:49,790 Never use hidden camera or be tempted to do anything in secret. 548 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:58,430 The less you try to provoke results, the better. The more they come to you, the better. 549 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:02,230 I'm not the one buying, they are the ones selling. 550 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:03,310 Exactly. 551 00:39:12,910 --> 00:39:15,138 - Hi, Jim. I'm Annie. - Pleasure to meet you. 552 00:39:15,139 --> 00:39:16,910 Lovely to meet you, too. 553 00:39:18,630 --> 00:39:20,738 If we can keep the answers as brief as possible 554 00:39:20,739 --> 00:39:23,008 and as precise as possible, that would be appreciated. 555 00:39:23,009 --> 00:39:24,030 Sure. 556 00:39:24,790 --> 00:39:27,990 So, what was your perception of the possible risk at this point? 557 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:33,150 Yeah, I mean... 558 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:37,390 As a former criminal, you don't calculate with risk that high... 559 00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:42,670 And... 560 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:50,070 I think I actually was more worried for Ulrich than for myself, because - 561 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:54,830 - he was involved - or is involved - in another way than I was; - 562 00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,670 -1 was hired in as an actor. 563 00:40:00,540 --> 00:40:02,898 I was also worried for the mole. 564 00:40:02,899 --> 00:40:04,938 Mr. James had been around the block. 565 00:40:04,939 --> 00:40:06,738 He could fend for himself. 566 00:40:06,739 --> 00:40:08,378 But what about the mole? 567 00:40:08,379 --> 00:40:10,540 He was just a retired chef. 568 00:40:17,870 --> 00:40:21,338 So, I took him to see a teacher who could give him a crash course 569 00:40:21,339 --> 00:40:24,978 in what is known as "tradecraft" among spies. 570 00:40:24,979 --> 00:40:27,098 In short, I took him to see Max, 571 00:40:27,099 --> 00:40:29,310 a former CIA agent. 572 00:40:33,590 --> 00:40:35,910 If he makes a mistake, he could find himself 573 00:40:37,430 --> 00:40:41,310 tied up in the centre of town with a blowtorch 574 00:40:42,310 --> 00:40:46,218 as an example for nobody else to do that. 575 00:40:46,219 --> 00:40:48,218 So... 576 00:40:48,219 --> 00:40:50,498 But why trust a former CIA agent 577 00:40:50,499 --> 00:40:54,830 with the identity and secrets of the mole? It's a good question. 578 00:40:58,390 --> 00:41:01,538 Max had been fired from the Central Intelligence Agency 579 00:41:01,539 --> 00:41:04,658 and was not in good standing with the company any more, 580 00:41:04,659 --> 00:41:07,018 which made it safer to trust him. 581 00:41:07,019 --> 00:41:08,498 I'm going to kill you. 582 00:41:08,499 --> 00:41:10,378 Why? 583 00:41:10,379 --> 00:41:11,538 Okay, yep. 584 00:41:11,539 --> 00:41:15,378 Anyway, I was in need of someone who could teach the mole the ropes 585 00:41:15,379 --> 00:41:17,458 before he returned to North Korea. 586 00:41:17,459 --> 00:41:18,778 If somebody's holding a gun on you, 587 00:41:18,779 --> 00:41:21,378 you're not going to expect them to-- take it away. 588 00:41:21,379 --> 00:41:25,418 All right? All you're looking for is a split-second edge. 589 00:41:25,419 --> 00:41:28,058 And besides, as the saying goes, 590 00:41:28,059 --> 00:41:30,418 who can you trust these days? 591 00:41:30,419 --> 00:41:32,098 Observation skills. 592 00:41:32,099 --> 00:41:34,418 - What I say, what's common is common... - Yeah. 593 00:41:34,419 --> 00:41:36,938 ...and what ain't, ain't. 594 00:41:36,939 --> 00:41:40,098 That means if it's common, that's usual for the area, 595 00:41:40,099 --> 00:41:41,538 Okay, that's normal. 596 00:41:41,539 --> 00:41:45,218 If something stands out, it stands out for a reason, 597 00:41:45,219 --> 00:41:48,738 so you've got to be aware of your surroundings. 598 00:41:48,739 --> 00:41:51,298 You might as well give them your phone and say, 599 00:41:51,299 --> 00:41:56,818 "Here, look at it," because that's how easy it is nowadays. 600 00:41:56,819 --> 00:41:59,378 You have to assume they can read all of your messages. 601 00:41:59,379 --> 00:42:02,378 So, when they look at your emails accounts, 602 00:42:02,379 --> 00:42:04,938 they can go way, way, way, way, way back. 603 00:42:04,939 --> 00:42:07,898 They're going to feel like you betrayed them. 604 00:42:07,899 --> 00:42:11,618 You didn't really believe in... in socialism or communism. 605 00:42:11,619 --> 00:42:13,938 You didn't really believe in North Korea as a place to go. 606 00:42:13,939 --> 00:42:15,618 You didn't really believe in it. 607 00:42:15,619 --> 00:42:18,060 That was all just-- You were a mole. 608 00:42:23,910 --> 00:42:26,178 Be careful that they don't set a trap for you. 609 00:42:26,179 --> 00:42:28,818 So, like, when they walk out of the room and leave papers, 610 00:42:28,819 --> 00:42:31,138 don't touch them, don't go near them. 611 00:42:31,139 --> 00:42:34,218 Then, they can say, "Oh, we knew he was going to go through these." 612 00:42:34,219 --> 00:42:38,178 You don't care about those. Don't even think about messing with that. 613 00:42:38,179 --> 00:42:40,978 I tell you what, you are a hero of mine doing this. 614 00:42:40,979 --> 00:42:42,300 It's very dangerous. 615 00:42:42,525 --> 00:42:44,778 - So, this is the real deal. - Yeah. 616 00:42:44,779 --> 00:42:46,218 - Safe journey. - Thank you, Max. 617 00:42:46,219 --> 00:42:47,808 - Godspeed. - Thank you. Bye. 618 00:42:47,809 --> 00:42:48,810 Bye now. 619 00:43:01,390 --> 00:43:04,018 Right in the middle of these anxieties, 620 00:43:04,019 --> 00:43:07,258 an American university student was arrested in North Korea 621 00:43:07,259 --> 00:43:09,458 was sentenced to hard labour 622 00:43:09,459 --> 00:43:12,658 for stealing a propaganda poster. The Warmbier-- 623 00:43:12,659 --> 00:43:14,698 His crime was simply stealing a poster 624 00:43:14,699 --> 00:43:16,630 from his hotel in Pyongyang. 625 00:43:18,030 --> 00:43:20,418 Another American front and centre 626 00:43:20,419 --> 00:43:22,790 in Pyongyang's propaganda parade. 627 00:43:36,430 --> 00:43:37,898 Otto Frederick Warmbier, 628 00:43:37,899 --> 00:43:40,178 a University of Virginia business major, 629 00:43:40,179 --> 00:43:42,500 making a dramatic, emotional confession. 630 00:43:50,830 --> 00:43:53,110 Warmbier's parents issued a statement today-- 631 00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,550 - Don't take pictures of the soldiers. - OK. 632 00:44:31,390 --> 00:44:33,990 So, can you tell me what happened when you got there? 633 00:44:34,720 --> 00:44:37,870 We were landing in a brand new airport in Pyongyang. 634 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,630 Three steps out of the flight, we were put aside, - 635 00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:43,470 - because I had the camera. 636 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:49,550 Because of the camera, the officer had to call a higher-ranking officer, - 637 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:50,790 - to check that out. 638 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:52,750 When we landed there, - 639 00:44:53,240 --> 00:44:55,830 - two government officials came, - 640 00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:58,910 - took my suitcase off the table... 641 00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:00,910 We went all the way around, - 642 00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:03,990 - and they put me in the VIP lounge, - 643 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:07,190 - where the Main Man himself sits when he travels. 644 00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:12,630 And then, we'd been waiting five minutes, Kang said: "Do you have your medal on?" 645 00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:13,830 "Show him." 646 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,470 - Is that him? - That is Mr. Kang. 647 00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,070 I was taking off my jacket, and he went... 648 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,910 "Sorry! Please! Welcome to North Korea!" 649 00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,710 And I took all my equipment, without any check, and walked straight out - 650 00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,670 - for a Mercedes Benz waiting to pick us up. 651 00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:49,790 The first evening we had a great dinner with a lot of alcohol. 652 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:54,270 Cheese! 653 00:47:02,240 --> 00:47:09,150 I went up to my room earlier than James, and Kang then came to my room and asked me: 654 00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:14,950 "Are you sure that this man has all the money that he's talking about?" 655 00:47:24,990 --> 00:47:28,180 So, how did the deal progress once you were there? 656 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:35,870 Well, in the beginning, it was sightseeing, looking at houses and business centers... 657 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,510 Kang? Could you tell shortly where we are going? 658 00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:48,870 Now we are going to visit a science and technology complex - 659 00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,870 - which was inaugurated last year. 660 00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,630 I must say, at this point, - 661 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,550 - I didn't see anything close to everything I was promised. 662 00:48:47,150 --> 00:48:51,090 So how long did this, shall we call it a courtship period, last? 663 00:48:51,091 --> 00:48:53,950 Two days. Then it started getting serious. 664 00:48:51,339 --> 00:48:53,910 Two days. Okay. 665 00:48:59,840 --> 00:49:03,070 Suddenly, the third morning, we got picked up. 666 00:49:03,080 --> 00:49:06,830 We were looking at each other: "Is this another sightseeing, or what?" 667 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:16,590 When we are in the car, he says we're going to meet some people - 668 00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:18,630 - that can sort you out. 669 00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:25,470 All the time we've been in North Korea, we've been driving downtown. 670 00:49:26,280 --> 00:49:31,190 Now we're starting driving outside town, and then, suddenly, we take a left turn. 671 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:36,030 And now we're not in a place you want to show tourists. 672 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:45,430 And they drove us outside of Pyongyang, into a slum area. 673 00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:50,550 So the driver parks. 674 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,550 And I'm like: "This doesn't seem right, but..." 675 00:49:56,560 --> 00:50:00,390 I mean: "Nowhere to run, so just focus!" 676 00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:08,550 And they wanted us to go down into a basement. 677 00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:13,390 We walked down these stairs, and it was really creepy. 678 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:20,310 But then, a big door opened, and we came into this luxury conference room... 679 00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:24,430 ...with a big table, a lot of food and... 680 00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:28,430 And suddenly, we are in a really, really nice restaurant. 681 00:50:28,740 --> 00:50:32,458 - Under a basement, in a rotting house. - Yeah. 682 00:50:32,459 --> 00:50:34,270 Were you frightened? 683 00:50:34,271 --> 00:50:35,950 -1 try not to be. 684 00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:50,430 Then we found out we were sitting together with the president from the arms factory. 685 00:50:52,790 --> 00:50:55,030 Is this when this photograph was taken? 686 00:50:56,360 --> 00:50:59,190 -Yes. 687 00:50:57,230 --> 00:50:59,260 So, can you tell me who is who? 688 00:50:59,261 --> 00:51:04,150 This is the president of the arms factory. 689 00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:09,550 This one is the intelligence officer. 690 00:51:12,240 --> 00:51:14,190 His English was really good. 691 00:51:14,680 --> 00:51:18,190 His questions were definitely different from the others', - 692 00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:21,110 - and he kind of started to interrogate me. 693 00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:25,790 And it was at that time I had to come up with a company name, - 694 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,430 - because we did not have a company name at that time. 695 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,310 So he said: "What's your company name?" 696 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:32,270 So I said: "The one who's taking care of this" - 697 00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,670 - "is Taga Group." 698 00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:39,670 And I was like: "Please remember that name!" 699 00:51:42,200 --> 00:51:46,150 Then there was one we referred to as "Stoneface". 700 00:51:52,200 --> 00:51:56,070 Then they surprised us by taking out the catalogue of their weapon systems. 701 00:51:57,160 --> 00:51:59,030 And I was like: "OK!" 702 00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:02,150 They gave me pictures... 703 00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:07,030 ...and said: "This is what we can sort you out with." 704 00:52:07,031 --> 00:52:08,779 - Like a sort of menu? - Yeah. 705 00:52:08,780 --> 00:52:09,939 Okay. 706 00:52:09,940 --> 00:52:12,270 And what sort of weapons are we talking about? 707 00:52:13,720 --> 00:52:14,830 All kinds of weapons. 708 00:52:15,440 --> 00:52:18,750 Missiles... Really big missiles. 709 00:52:19,640 --> 00:52:21,350 Tanks... 710 00:52:21,870 --> 00:52:23,378 So this is all on offer? 711 00:52:23,379 --> 00:52:27,858 Yeah, this is what we were just handed over the table. 712 00:52:27,859 --> 00:52:31,338 - Wow! So we've got Scud missiles? - Yeah. 713 00:52:31,339 --> 00:52:35,938 So, you can get five Scud missiles for $14 million. 714 00:52:35,939 --> 00:52:37,670 - Missile launchers. - Yeah. 715 00:52:40,460 --> 00:52:42,918 So we're going up to Scud-E missiles now. 716 00:52:42,919 --> 00:52:44,700 Good God! $25 million. 717 00:52:44,701 --> 00:52:47,350 - 1350 km range... 718 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,870 ...that's practically from North Korea to Japan. 719 00:52:47,390 --> 00:52:48,550 Yeah. 720 00:52:50,630 --> 00:52:54,778 And that's a high explosive warhead, and that's thermobaric. Oof! 721 00:52:54,779 --> 00:52:57,160 I mean, that's as close as you can get to a nuke 722 00:52:57,470 --> 00:52:58,790 without it being a nuke. 723 00:52:59,950 --> 00:53:01,350 What's this? 724 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,550 This is the agreement between James... 725 00:53:06,000 --> 00:53:07,069 ...and Narae. 726 00:53:07,070 --> 00:53:08,990 - The arms factory? - Yeah. 727 00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:13,390 - All signed and sealed, as well. - Yes. 728 00:53:17,910 --> 00:53:19,898 And what was Ulrich doing during this meeting 729 00:53:19,899 --> 00:53:21,630 when you were signing contracts? 730 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,310 He was filming. 731 00:53:23,790 --> 00:53:25,110 He was allowed to film?! 732 00:53:25,520 --> 00:53:27,310 - This is the funny part, because - 733 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:35,150 - Ulrich's position is so good that they just thought he filmed for propaganda videos. 734 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,150 - Should I sign the Korean one as well? - Yes. 735 00:53:41,151 --> 00:53:42,590 And where is that? 736 00:53:47,710 --> 00:53:51,258 At this point, you're in a secret underground lair in North Korea, 737 00:53:51,259 --> 00:53:55,258 facilitating the signature of a weapons contract. 738 00:53:55,259 --> 00:53:57,470 What is going through your head at this stage? 739 00:53:57,880 --> 00:54:00,510 Many things. First of all, - 740 00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,321 - I've been practically lying for my wife for seven years. 741 00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,030 So... I was thinking about that. 742 00:54:25,910 --> 00:54:28,350 And Alejandro is aware of all of this? 743 00:54:28,920 --> 00:54:30,750 - He's aware of everything. 744 00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:36,910 I will soon go to Spain to visit comrade Alejandro, and give him a detailed report - 745 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:39,750 - about what we have achieved here today together with James. 746 00:54:40,560 --> 00:54:42,790 Cheers! 747 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:50,790 - And for you! - Cheers! Thank you. 748 00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,190 So we agreed on building a factory outside North Korea, - 749 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:20,750 - that would make weapons and methamphetamine. 750 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:25,430 And, as is custom for them, - 751 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,110 - they suggest it will definitely be underground. 752 00:55:28,950 --> 00:55:31,258 And did the Koreans have any preferences 753 00:55:31,259 --> 00:55:33,470 when it came to countries, or suggestions? 754 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:37,870 The first destination that came up, was Namibia, - 755 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,670 - where they had friendly people in the government. 756 00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:47,790 That was taken off the table due to the sanctions. 757 00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:54,910 So, the next country that was put on the table, was Uganda. 758 00:55:57,060 --> 00:55:58,218 So, to sum it up, 759 00:55:58,219 --> 00:56:01,698 you are now a North Korean weapons dealer and broker? 760 00:56:01,699 --> 00:56:02,700 Yes. 761 00:56:07,550 --> 00:56:10,258 Good evening, and it's great to have you with us here 762 00:56:10,259 --> 00:56:13,018 on a Monday night. And we begin with late developments today, 763 00:56:13,019 --> 00:56:16,018 the worsening horror for a mother and father from Ohio. 764 00:56:16,019 --> 00:56:18,378 Their son, who was just returned from North Korea 765 00:56:18,379 --> 00:56:21,938 with severe brain damage, has now died. 766 00:56:21,939 --> 00:56:24,538 Since the moment their son was sentenced 767 00:56:24,539 --> 00:56:27,858 to hard labour for stealing a propaganda poster, 768 00:56:27,859 --> 00:56:31,578 the Warmbiers were fighting until he was released. 769 00:56:31,579 --> 00:56:36,098 The look in his eyes, which I didn't know he was blind at the time, 770 00:56:36,099 --> 00:56:41,498 was absolute horror - horror like he'd seen the devil. 771 00:56:41,499 --> 00:56:45,420 And he had. He was with the devil. 772 00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:50,950 Let's begin by saying "Welcome home". 773 00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:51,960 Thanks a lot. 774 00:56:55,790 --> 00:56:59,578 Back in Copenhagen, I was shocked to discover what my two proxies 775 00:56:59,579 --> 00:57:02,098 had accomplished in Pyongyang. 776 00:57:02,099 --> 00:57:05,498 They had brought real, raw intelligence with them. 777 00:57:05,499 --> 00:57:09,338 As the scholar Andrea Berger writes in her study Target Markets, 778 00:57:09,339 --> 00:57:13,058 very little is known about pricing on North Korean weapons systems, 779 00:57:13,059 --> 00:57:17,498 but here was a fully detailed menu in hard copy. 780 00:57:17,499 --> 00:57:20,538 Mr. James being appointed as a North Korean arms broker 781 00:57:20,539 --> 00:57:22,778 seemed like the figment of a sick mind, 782 00:57:22,779 --> 00:57:25,578 but here also was a signed and sealed contract, 783 00:57:25,579 --> 00:57:27,990 drawn up in English by the North Koreans. 784 00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:29,870 We signed it... 785 00:57:30,390 --> 00:57:33,738 Before Mr. James came along, only a few non-Koreans 786 00:57:33,739 --> 00:57:36,870 had been known to broker weapons for the regime in Pyongyang. 787 00:57:38,390 --> 00:57:42,538 Back in 2011, the British arms dealer Michael Ranger was arrested 788 00:57:42,539 --> 00:57:46,178 for brokering a deal between Azerbaijan and North Korea, 789 00:57:46,179 --> 00:57:49,658 but he was a highly experienced arms dealer in a dangerous game 790 00:57:49,659 --> 00:57:52,390 for experts, let alone amateurs. 791 00:57:54,350 --> 00:57:58,510 Nevertheless, Mr. James and the mole had scored a jackpot. 792 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,110 And I got promoted... I have been given an assignment. 793 00:58:02,440 --> 00:58:08,110 The title is: "Honorary Position of Business Agent for Narae Trading Corporation". 794 00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:13,910 I have to inform my dear friend Alejandro about the promotion. 795 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:19,630 Because in Korea, we agreed that I would give Alejandro a full report about the visit. 796 00:58:29,040 --> 00:58:30,870 - Is it ready? - All is ready. 797 00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:33,030 What about the camera on my chest, is it fine? 798 00:58:37,360 --> 00:58:39,150 Comrade Alejandro! How are you? 799 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:41,950 - Welcome to "The Bunker". - Thank you. 800 00:58:41,960 --> 00:58:44,230 Yes, the bunker. Perfect. 801 00:58:45,400 --> 00:58:49,230 It's hot here. We had minus 21 in Pyongyang, when we were there. 802 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,310 Really? 803 00:58:51,510 --> 00:58:55,218 To prepare the mole for his next mission, Alejandro would now provide 804 00:58:55,219 --> 00:58:59,030 guidance on how to operate as a businessman in Uganda. 805 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,790 In Africa, nobody is going to take care of you. 806 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:08,150 - The life of James is worth 50 US dollars. - OK. 807 00:59:08,160 --> 00:59:13,990 That's what it costs to hire a hitman and cut your throat. 808 00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,630 Literally cut your throat. 809 00:59:16,640 --> 00:59:18,830 And don't forget that they are quite strong, - 810 00:59:18,840 --> 00:59:21,190 - because they work all day under the sun. 811 00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:23,030 Taking the bush and everything. 812 00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:25,710 The negro has that thing... 813 00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:28,950 In the moment you don't look at them, they will steal... 814 00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:30,870 ...everything from you, even a drop of water. 815 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:36,390 And they need always to have a person on top of them, telling them what to do. 816 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:39,670 If not, they'd just sleep or steal. Sleep or steal. 817 00:59:40,480 --> 00:59:47,390 If the white master is not there, they will feel like animals, and destroy everything. 818 00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:51,590 So he needs to be really careful about whom to bring in? 819 00:59:51,600 --> 00:59:53,830 Yes, yes, very careful. 820 00:59:53,840 --> 01:00:01,840 And if one person is to be appointed, it has to be a person willing to die for it. 821 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:06,110 But what is the idea of...? 822 01:00:06,120 --> 01:00:07,630 The idea is to make the - 823 01:00:07,640 --> 01:00:10,590 - methamphetamine and weapons. 824 01:00:11,600 --> 01:00:15,590 When you're talking about the business, do never use those words again. OK? 825 01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:19,910 I think you should take care. 826 01:00:21,800 --> 01:00:24,550 Suddenly, he just stood up and said he wanted to show me something. 827 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:36,870 This is a bug detector. It will detect any kind of bugs that you may carry, - 828 01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:40,550 - or that someone may have put on you. 829 01:00:40,560 --> 01:00:44,590 If you have a microphone or something on you, it will make a signal. 830 01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,069 - OK? - Ah, OK. Perfect. 831 01:00:47,070 --> 01:00:48,950 - You were mic'd up? - I was mic'd up, yeah. 832 01:00:48,240 --> 01:00:49,240 - I was mic'd up, yeah. 833 01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:51,790 Try my phone. 834 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:54,510 Ah, OK. 835 01:00:56,620 --> 01:00:58,300 Here is a signal. 836 01:01:10,240 --> 01:01:12,870 Do you have something RF? Radio Frequency? 837 01:01:14,680 --> 01:01:17,190 I have the car key for my rental car. 838 01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:20,870 I have a small bag on the table. I have my car key in it. 839 01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:26,510 Maybe it's because it takes some signals down? 840 01:01:28,600 --> 01:01:30,830 This is by remote control. 841 01:01:30,840 --> 01:01:33,590 So it was sending a signal to the... 842 01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:37,270 But this is... I sweep it many times. We don't have anything. 843 01:01:37,280 --> 01:01:41,109 Please, do that every time before we come. 844 01:01:41,110 --> 01:01:47,579 So, when you're talking about the business, you have to find two words to talk about two things. 845 01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:51,579 Never use those words that you used before, OK? 846 01:01:51,580 --> 01:01:59,580 You should talk about canned seafood, for example, when referring to something you eat 847 01:02:03,060 --> 01:02:11,060 and when you are talking about the other thing, let's talk about wood handicrafts, made by the native people. 848 01:02:14,980 --> 01:02:20,682 This way, they can never figure out what you're talking about. This kind of messaging is essential. 849 01:02:20,920 --> 01:02:25,990 We are not talking about a small thing. If this goes down, there are many millions going down. 850 01:02:26,000 --> 01:02:28,750 So, also James has to understand, this is not a child's game. 851 01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,230 No. I said to him: "Listen..." 852 01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:34,470 To be serious, because it's as easy as this, to do like this to you... 853 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:36,670 ...I can put a microphone. - Yes. 854 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:40,350 "Hey, hello, welcome to Barcelona!" 855 01:02:40,360 --> 01:02:44,110 And then you have no idea that you are broadcasting information. 856 01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:49,830 It's good, we need that. Especially the good one. The Russian one. 857 01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:50,990 This is just basic. 858 01:02:52,360 --> 01:02:55,030 That's all, no? We discussed all the issues. 859 01:03:15,140 --> 01:03:16,620 What happened next? 860 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:19,990 I jump in the car, and - 861 01:03:20,280 --> 01:03:22,390 - then I start to feel bad. 862 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,590 I have a lot of pictures on my mind, - 863 01:03:34,880 --> 01:03:38,150 - and I now I just need to get this off, because it did something to me; - 864 01:03:38,440 --> 01:03:40,590 - it was such a close call. 865 01:03:49,400 --> 01:03:51,668 So, just to be fully clear here, 866 01:03:51,669 --> 01:03:56,308 he was fully briefed on the plans to build the secret factory in Uganda? 867 01:03:56,309 --> 01:03:58,080 - Loved the idea. - Okay. 868 01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,588 In Uganda, Mr. James would be the playmaker. 869 01:04:10,589 --> 01:04:11,828 Yeah, okay. 870 01:04:11,829 --> 01:04:13,188 And to have it all on camera, 871 01:04:13,189 --> 01:04:15,428 he brought a photographer who was filming 872 01:04:15,429 --> 01:04:19,760 for a covert video about his life as a man of international mystery. 873 01:04:22,480 --> 01:04:25,160 And the mole, he brought his hidden camera. 874 01:04:26,000 --> 01:04:30,510 - Where's the button? - On the side. 875 01:04:31,760 --> 01:04:33,790 Yes, it's red now. 876 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,670 See you. 877 01:04:46,360 --> 01:04:47,760 So, what happens next? 878 01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:51,430 Then, the North Koreans arrived in Kampala. 879 01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:54,670 Hi, you're there! Good to see you again! 880 01:04:55,160 --> 01:04:57,310 Good morning. Nice to see you. 881 01:04:57,600 --> 01:05:02,830 One of them, he was one of the people in the basement, while I was signing. 882 01:05:04,340 --> 01:05:05,360 Is that...? 883 01:05:05,361 --> 01:05:08,150 - Yes, that's the person we named "Stoneface". 884 01:05:09,880 --> 01:05:11,200 And who is he? 885 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:16,030 That's Mr. Danny, the international arms dealer from North Korea. 886 01:05:16,800 --> 01:05:17,830 Please come in. 887 01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:21,510 You can walk in here, no problem. 888 01:05:23,000 --> 01:05:24,710 Thank you. Thank you. 889 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,190 I think Mr. James will come shortly. 890 01:05:30,200 --> 01:05:32,990 So we can talk a little ourselves. 891 01:05:33,600 --> 01:05:36,308 Earlier this month, North Korea threatened to fire 892 01:05:36,309 --> 01:05:38,800 missiles towards the US territory of Guam. 893 01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,820 This provoked the US president into threats of war. 894 01:05:43,960 --> 01:05:48,510 I read in the news that the DPRK had a successful missile test this morning? 895 01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,150 Yes. 896 01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:56,750 I don't have any concerns, I just think that president Donald Trump is a crazy man. 897 01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:57,790 What did he say? 898 01:05:57,791 --> 01:06:03,708 North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States. 899 01:06:03,709 --> 01:06:08,188 They will be met with fire and fury 900 01:06:08,189 --> 01:06:10,580 like the world has never seen. 901 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:20,480 We will continue to launch missiles, until the Americans stop provoking our country. 902 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,870 There you are! Hello. 903 01:06:27,720 --> 01:06:32,270 Nice to see you! Hi. Nice to see you again. 904 01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:37,350 Two seconds. I'll just close here. 905 01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:42,350 The idea was to buy an island - 906 01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:47,350 - and build a weapons factory underground. 907 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:50,790 So, I've been looking at an island. 908 01:06:52,120 --> 01:06:57,270 This island is perfect. It's in the middle of Victoria Lake. 909 01:06:58,000 --> 01:07:04,590 So if airplanes come down, people on the mainland would not even see them. 910 01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:08,510 Souvenir! 911 01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:36,315 We went there, to check out the island... 912 01:07:36,316 --> 01:07:38,560 How had you found the island in the first place? 913 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:40,390 Oh... 914 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:45,070 ...Google. 915 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:49,110 I found a place where you can buy private islands. 916 01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:53,190 I could get this for five million dollars. 917 01:07:56,080 --> 01:07:59,270 This island is a very good idea. 918 01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:02,830 We construct the factory building, and then, after that, - 919 01:08:02,840 --> 01:08:05,190 - we must provide some equipment. 920 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:07,790 The equipment depends on the products. 921 01:08:08,400 --> 01:08:11,030 You can purchase from us... 922 01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,550 First we can, for example, with the missiles. 923 01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,430 Or several kind of missiles. 924 01:08:17,920 --> 01:08:21,550 You bring your own aircraft to our country, - 925 01:08:22,720 --> 01:08:25,350 - under the name of humanitarian aid. 926 01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:28,310 You can bring some clothing, some food... 927 01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:32,150 Then we can load all the contracted items, - 928 01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:35,710 - then you pay money to us, and then you fly back. 929 01:08:37,280 --> 01:08:39,510 We can provide you with everything - 930 01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:42,630 - from small ammunition to big missiles. 931 01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,990 Electro-warrior items also. 932 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,870 Radar, all the communications systems... 933 01:08:49,920 --> 01:08:51,750 ...we can do everything. 934 01:08:57,480 --> 01:08:59,630 So we wanted to go out and see - 935 01:08:59,960 --> 01:09:02,670 - if it could actually be used for the purpose. 936 01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,710 And before we went there, the real estate man on it - 937 01:09:09,120 --> 01:09:13,510 - said that he had told the people on the island - 938 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,670 — because people lived on the island — 939 01:09:15,680 --> 01:09:18,790 - that we were there to build a hospital. 940 01:09:19,680 --> 01:09:23,030 So the whole village is there to welcome us. 941 01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:34,070 Ah! Thank you! 942 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:42,148 We are waiting for someone. 943 01:09:42,149 --> 01:09:44,120 Your sister? Your brother? 944 01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:56,230 What I was saying was to introduce you as a friendly party - 945 01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,430 - to the people on the island. 946 01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:06,750 Because we don't want them to know about the transaction between the landlord and us. 947 01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:11,830 And this is why you told them that I was there to build a hospital? 948 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,590 - Yes. - OK. I see. 949 01:10:15,280 --> 01:10:18,470 So I need your cooperation, OK? 950 01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:20,950 OK. Now let us pray. 951 01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:26,030 I bless this people in Jesus' name... 952 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:31,030 This guy, he said to me: "I have told people on the island" - 953 01:10:31,040 --> 01:10:33,990 - "you're gonna build a hospital". I said: "What?!" 954 01:10:35,320 --> 01:10:37,710 "I don't look like a hospital guy!" 955 01:10:39,760 --> 01:10:40,830 My duty - 956 01:10:41,240 --> 01:10:44,670 - is to remove those people from the land - 957 01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,270 - without causing friction. 958 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:48,760 OK. 959 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,670 And how fast can we have them moved? 960 01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,670 Maximum is four months. 961 01:10:54,920 --> 01:10:57,750 - That is included in the price, right? - Yeah. 962 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,710 - So this is where they play football? - Yes. 963 01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:05,190 I think there could be a great landing field here. 964 01:11:05,200 --> 01:11:09,430 - Yes, yes, very much so. - OK. Perfect. 965 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,590 OK, that's good. It's good. 966 01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:16,790 But now the situation... America is watching our country. 967 01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:21,510 The US intelligence agencies should not know about this project. 968 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:28,750 So, the idea is... 969 01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,230 — and this is their idea — 970 01:11:31,240 --> 01:11:33,950 - that we should build a hotel above; - 971 01:11:33,960 --> 01:11:38,310 - some kind of resort, and that can explain why we have a landing ground there. 972 01:11:39,640 --> 01:11:42,830 Everything else will be built underground. 973 01:11:44,120 --> 01:11:46,708 I will show you one on the other side and then we are done, 974 01:11:46,709 --> 01:11:48,840 and then you have an idea of all the things. 975 01:11:52,180 --> 01:11:54,988 Did you get an impression that they had something out of the box, 976 01:11:54,989 --> 01:11:58,308 so they had done this before and had a standard plan, 977 01:11:58,309 --> 01:12:02,258 a standard look for disguising these sort of facilities? 978 01:12:02,259 --> 01:12:04,480 They had worked with other people like this? 979 01:12:04,481 --> 01:12:07,190 Yes, yes, they'd already said that. 980 01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:10,790 ”We have the engineers, we have the knowledge..." 981 01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,750 It was not a discussion about I should come up with those ideas. 982 01:12:16,720 --> 01:12:19,790 Because, from the beginning, I'm an investor. 983 01:12:20,160 --> 01:12:22,510 "I invest in it; I think it's a good idea", - 984 01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:26,670 - but the architects behind the whole structure were them. 985 01:12:27,800 --> 01:12:28,870 Bye bye. 986 01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:33,150 I was feeling very bad when we left the island. 987 01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:37,230 There lives thousands on this island. 988 01:12:37,800 --> 01:12:41,470 Thousands and thousands they're willing to throw off the island, - 989 01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:44,750 - in four months, if I put down five million dollars. 990 01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:49,000 How can that be done? Was the government involved? 991 01:12:50,240 --> 01:12:51,470 We had a sit-down, - 992 01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,950 - established by the broker, - 993 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:57,310 - with government officials. 994 01:12:57,320 --> 01:13:00,270 I was quite open. I said: 995 01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:04,110 "we want to do something on the island, I cannot tell you what it is," - 996 01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,670 - "but we want 100% privacy, we don't want any interference," - 997 01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,150 - "and I want that, otherwise we don't want to buy the island." 998 01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,310 If this flies, we can move very fast. 999 01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,670 We can get the people out of the island. 1000 01:13:16,680 --> 01:13:19,110 And we can start doing this. 1001 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:21,630 - Sure. - How does that sound? 1002 01:13:21,640 --> 01:13:23,910 That sounds very interesting. 1003 01:13:23,920 --> 01:13:26,239 I've been working with the government for the last 15 years. 1004 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:27,550 What is the project about? 1005 01:13:27,800 --> 01:13:30,790 Is it going to be a golf resort? A marina? 1006 01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:34,150 A health spa? 1007 01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,310 We want to give back to society. We have CSR obligations... 1008 01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,030 Then we'll buy some schools or something like that. 1009 01:13:42,160 --> 01:13:48,230 We want clearance that we can land planes and take them off from our island. 1010 01:13:48,600 --> 01:13:52,990 The aerodrome license can be done, as long as it's part of the investment plan. 1011 01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:55,550 This bird will fly. 1012 01:13:55,560 --> 01:13:58,310 That's sweet music to our ears. 1013 01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:00,750 That's what I do. 1014 01:14:00,760 --> 01:14:02,350 Give me an Amen! 1015 01:14:02,840 --> 01:14:04,359 Amen, brothers! 1016 01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:05,879 We were really crazy as well. 1017 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,710 We actually got promised that - 1018 01:14:08,720 --> 01:14:10,790 - they could actually - 1019 01:14:11,200 --> 01:14:13,630 - have customs protect our island. 1020 01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,390 Let's pray together. 1021 01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:22,110 Heavenly Father, bless our project, bless our ideas. Amen. 1022 01:14:22,120 --> 01:14:23,590 Amen! 1023 01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:27,560 Thank you. 1024 01:14:41,120 --> 01:14:43,908 So, although the true purpose of the project was not 1025 01:14:43,909 --> 01:14:45,588 revealed to the Africans, 1026 01:14:45,589 --> 01:14:47,268 buying the island in Uganda 1027 01:14:47,269 --> 01:14:50,028 and using it for a secret weapons and drug factory 1028 01:14:50,029 --> 01:14:53,188 seemed to be right up the alley of the North Koreans, 1029 01:14:53,189 --> 01:14:55,360 which was kind of important to prove. 1030 01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,548 But it did not stop there because, while in Uganda, 1031 01:15:00,549 --> 01:15:03,588 the North Korean arms dealer Mr. Danny was ready to take 1032 01:15:03,589 --> 01:15:05,748 the joint venture a step further. 1033 01:15:05,749 --> 01:15:07,280 Yeah, we can meet in the lobby. 1034 01:15:07,800 --> 01:15:09,270 When will you be there? 1035 01:15:10,200 --> 01:15:12,750 OK, I look forward to see you. Take care. Bye bye. 1036 01:15:19,800 --> 01:15:23,270 You said you had some things you needed to move as well? 1037 01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:28,550 Yes, for example, can you can bring our items to Middle East countries? 1038 01:15:29,200 --> 01:15:34,630 - This business is with Syria. - Syria? 1039 01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:39,670 What kind of items they want there? 1040 01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:44,790 - Projectiles. Bombs. - OK. 1041 01:15:45,720 --> 01:15:52,910 If you can transport all items from our country to Syria... 1042 01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:58,270 You give me a signal and I can go to Beijing and we can meet and discuss what it takes. 1043 01:16:00,360 --> 01:16:03,548 North Koreans needing to move armaments to Syria is 1044 01:16:03,549 --> 01:16:05,948 actually a very interesting piece of information, 1045 01:16:05,949 --> 01:16:08,588 so please allow me to digress a little bit. 1046 01:16:08,589 --> 01:16:13,018 Historically, North Korea and Syria have been friends for many years 1047 01:16:13,019 --> 01:16:15,988 and the North Koreans were even building a nuclear reactor 1048 01:16:15,989 --> 01:16:20,988 in the Syrian desert until the Israelis decided to blow it up. 1049 01:16:20,989 --> 01:16:22,458 During the civil war in Syria, 1050 01:16:22,459 --> 01:16:25,988 the New York Times published a story about how North Korea was 1051 01:16:25,989 --> 01:16:29,480 helping the Syrian regime with its chemical weapons programme. 1052 01:16:30,620 --> 01:16:33,348 At the same time, small arms from North Korea have been found 1053 01:16:33,349 --> 01:16:35,908 in the hands of fighters from the Islamic State, 1054 01:16:35,909 --> 01:16:40,348 but most likely these weapons were stolen from the Syrian army. 1055 01:16:40,349 --> 01:16:44,748 So, when the North Korean arms dealer Mr. Danny wants to send bombs 1056 01:16:44,749 --> 01:16:49,800 and projectiles to Syria, the end user is probably the Syrian regime. 1057 01:16:53,260 --> 01:16:54,588 So what did you say to Danny 1058 01:16:54,589 --> 01:16:57,040 when he suggested that you help with the Syria move? 1059 01:16:58,680 --> 01:17:01,590 I said yes; I would like to do that. 1060 01:17:02,680 --> 01:17:06,990 Then he said: "Then you'll have to go to Beijing" - 1061 01:17:17,080 --> 01:17:20,588 Something I still feel bad about is sending Mr. James to Beijing 1062 01:17:20,589 --> 01:17:23,120 to meet with North Korean arms dealers. 1063 01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:26,828 People who are in the know about the dark side 1064 01:17:26,829 --> 01:17:28,720 advised us strongly against it. 1065 01:17:30,480 --> 01:17:33,468 Because if the Chinese intelligence service would shine 1066 01:17:33,469 --> 01:17:37,880 their lights on Mr. James, it would be another ball game entirely. 1067 01:17:40,800 --> 01:17:43,788 But Mr. James is a man who craves action 1068 01:17:43,789 --> 01:17:48,000 and I am a film-maker who craves sensation, so he went anyway. 1069 01:17:56,280 --> 01:18:00,550 Before I'm going to Beijing, I've been in contact with Mr. Danny, - 1070 01:18:01,080 --> 01:18:05,270 - who said he had passed it on to his collaboration partner, - 1071 01:18:05,720 --> 01:18:07,630 - and he will take it forward. 1072 01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:13,150 Sit down, and, as custom, I've brought you something from Denmark. 1073 01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,390 One for you, and one for you. 1074 01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:22,950 The first day, there's only two gentlemen arriving. 1075 01:18:23,360 --> 01:18:28,310 And one of them introduce himself to be the main guy - 1076 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,550 - of the weapon industry. 1077 01:18:31,160 --> 01:18:32,828 Both men are North Korean. 1078 01:18:32,829 --> 01:18:36,668 I know this because sometimes they speak Korean to each other 1079 01:18:36,669 --> 01:18:38,640 in the dialect of the North. 1080 01:18:38,760 --> 01:18:42,030 Frankly speaking, we're blocked in all directions. 1081 01:18:42,040 --> 01:18:45,030 But we're all ready to move forward. 1082 01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:53,880 They say 25 workers are ready to be sent to Uganda. 1083 01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:01,510 Clearly, the two men are in the know about the island in Uganda, - 1084 01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:03,910 - which seems to be a top priority. 1085 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:09,950 If he had bought the island and built the factories, it would be different. 1086 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:13,030 But can they trust Mr. James? 1087 01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:17,430 I don't know if Danny has already told you about the business we are doing? 1088 01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,430 - The weapons, yeah? - Weapons, OK. 1089 01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:24,670 He said to me: "We have a collaboration with Syria," - 1090 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,350 "But our problem is to give them the armoury." 1091 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,950 "Do you think you can help us?" 1092 01:19:32,760 --> 01:19:35,430 - Is that correct? - Yes, Syria. 1093 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:38,310 - You have contacts in Syria? - Yeah, yeah. 1094 01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:44,710 If you give me a list of the people that you officially cannot contact, - 1095 01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:48,910 - then I can contact them, because I can travel here and there, - 1096 01:19:48,920 --> 01:19:50,190 - on behalf of you. 1097 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:53,910 May I smoke here? No, outside? 1098 01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:55,790 I don't know. 1099 01:19:56,120 --> 01:19:57,750 It's OK, I'll go to the toilet. 1100 01:19:58,100 --> 01:19:59,910 The toilet is out there. 1101 01:20:00,360 --> 01:20:03,890 No, no. It is in there. 1102 01:20:04,720 --> 01:20:06,258 Asking for names of clients 1103 01:20:06,259 --> 01:20:10,520 and contacts in the world of arms dealing seems to be a show stopper. 1104 01:20:28,360 --> 01:20:31,310 He's asking about who our clients are... 1105 01:20:34,160 --> 01:20:37,070 He is not someone to trust. 1106 01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,690 If he has money as he says... 1107 01:20:45,480 --> 01:20:50,990 Actually, I was kind of sad when I was in North Korea, it was in January, so... 1108 01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:53,430 - Have you been to North Korea? - Yeah. 1109 01:20:53,440 --> 01:20:55,110 Have you visited our country? 1110 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:58,990 - When? - In January. I was in Korea. Yeah. 1111 01:20:59,000 --> 01:21:00,670 Who invited you? 1112 01:21:01,000 --> 01:21:02,870 - Kang. - Mr. Kang? 1113 01:21:02,880 --> 01:21:03,880 Yeah. 1114 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,950 The second day, we're meeting, then suddenly... 1115 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:21,390 - the one we refer to as "Stoneface" appears. 1116 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,960 And what was the power dynamic between these two? 1117 01:21:28,200 --> 01:21:33,790 This is the strange thing, because the hierarchy is very difficult. 1118 01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:35,870 Good to see you again. 1119 01:21:37,640 --> 01:21:40,508 Was the enigmatic Stoneface summoned to Beijing 1120 01:21:40,509 --> 01:21:44,748 in order to verify the identity of Mr. James? 1121 01:21:44,749 --> 01:21:47,508 He never says a word, he does not even smile, 1122 01:21:47,509 --> 01:21:50,668 so we can never know for sure about Stoneface, 1123 01:21:50,669 --> 01:21:54,719 but it is safe to say that his appearance made a difference. 1124 01:21:54,720 --> 01:21:58,270 We should check everything very carefully... 1125 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,999 ...even these walls have ears and eyes, you know? 1126 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:02,110 Yeah. 1127 01:22:02,111 --> 01:22:04,639 We are looking for the right person - 1128 01:22:04,640 --> 01:22:07,759 - who is handling transporation. 1129 01:22:07,760 --> 01:22:12,480 For example, this one. 1130 01:22:15,260 --> 01:22:18,300 Rifles, guns, air-to-air missiles. 1131 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,870 At this moment we have contacted the other country, - 1132 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:24,390 - and they are waiting to buy these ones. 1133 01:22:25,080 --> 01:22:30,350 Can you confirm that you buy the island within 2—3 months? 1134 01:22:30,800 --> 01:22:34,470 What I will do, is that I will fly down there personally - 1135 01:22:34,980 --> 01:22:37,630 - and stay down there until it's bought. 1136 01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:40,830 The only reason why I went to Uganda in the first place, - 1137 01:22:40,840 --> 01:22:42,670 - was because you told me to. 1138 01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,670 The head of the ♪♪♪♪♪♪ of Uganda, a lawyer... 1139 01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,350 ...is my close partner. 1140 01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,790 So if you need, I'll help you. 1141 01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:55,710 But please consider, their ways of life... 1142 01:22:55,720 --> 01:23:01,430 ...and their working style is quite different from you and us. 1143 01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,070 Today, "yes", drink, "yes" tomorrow, "forgotten"... 1144 01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:14,270 - Please, consider it. - OK. 1145 01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:20,000 So, when did they contact you again? 1146 01:23:20,840 --> 01:23:23,790 It actually went a long time. 1147 01:23:24,040 --> 01:23:25,040 More than a year. 1148 01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:29,868 My actor, Mr. James, seemed to be taking on a life of his own. 1149 01:23:29,869 --> 01:23:31,380 That was a concern. 1150 01:23:31,629 --> 01:23:34,228 Another concern was the mole going back to Spain to brief 1151 01:23:34,229 --> 01:23:39,468 Alejandro Cao de Benos about the Tourism Project, the code name 1152 01:23:39,469 --> 01:23:43,920 chosen for the underground weapons and drugs factory in Uganda. 1153 01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:53,068 By now, the mole had been undercover for more than seven years 1154 01:23:53,069 --> 01:23:55,200 and paranoia was running high. 1155 01:23:57,760 --> 01:24:00,548 So far, no intelligence service had caught onto us, 1156 01:24:00,549 --> 01:24:03,748 but, every time we met with Alejandro Cao de Benos, 1157 01:24:03,749 --> 01:24:05,708 we had to consider the possibility 1158 01:24:05,709 --> 01:24:09,468 that he was being followed by spooks. 1159 01:24:09,469 --> 01:24:11,868 At the same time, we also had to consider the risk 1160 01:24:11,869 --> 01:24:14,988 that Alejandro would upgrade his counter surveillance 1161 01:24:14,989 --> 01:24:18,560 with new devices for discovering microphones. 1162 01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:26,628 From now on, the mole would only meet with Alejandro in a hotel 1163 01:24:26,629 --> 01:24:29,988 chosen by us with security on standby next door 1164 01:24:29,989 --> 01:24:32,600 in case his cover was blown. 1165 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:43,588 Soon Alejandro would spring another surprise on the mole, 1166 01:24:43,589 --> 01:24:45,828 but first a piece of nostalgia. 1167 01:24:45,829 --> 01:24:49,940 You see, going to North Korea with Alejandro as my tour guide 1168 01:24:50,189 --> 01:24:54,858 back in 2006 left a long-lasting impression on me. 1169 01:24:54,859 --> 01:24:57,828 Apparently I had also left a long-lasting impression 1170 01:24:57,829 --> 01:24:59,948 on Alejandro Cao de Benos 1171 01:24:59,949 --> 01:25:03,840 and so had my first documentary about North Korea, The Red Chapel. 1172 01:25:05,420 --> 01:25:09,228 The film stars two Danish-Korean comedians who go to Pyongyang 1173 01:25:09,229 --> 01:25:11,068 and lampoon the leadership, 1174 01:25:11,069 --> 01:25:15,480 which means that I am not Mr. Popular in North Korea any more. 1175 01:25:24,200 --> 01:25:25,750 Little pussycat. 1176 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:28,830 Little pussycat on the road... 1177 01:25:28,840 --> 01:25:33,550 It's a poem about the independence of the cat, a little pussycat. 1178 01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:36,390 - A little pussycat? What's that? - A cat. 1179 01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:40,110 - A puss... or with...? - In English you can say pussycat or cat. 1180 01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:43,830 It's a cat... Meow. - Meow... Pussy, what does it mean? 1181 01:25:44,880 --> 01:25:49,690 Mads Brugger! I still have his passport, you know. Brugger and the other fucker. 1182 01:25:49,960 --> 01:25:53,710 First trip, it's by me. They come to me. 1183 01:25:54,080 --> 01:25:55,350 They were there more than once? 1184 01:25:55,360 --> 01:25:58,990 Yes, they have been there three times before making "The Red Chapel". To North Korea. 1185 01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:01,870 Suddenly, I receive a call from Pyongyang: 1186 01:26:02,240 --> 01:26:04,359 "Alejandro, you know what happened with "The Red Chapel"?" 1187 01:26:04,360 --> 01:26:06,230 "I know nothing! I was not in the meetings." 1188 01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:10,390 "I only brought them in the first trip. I don't even know they came second time, third time." 1189 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:15,510 I said: "You know what, you deserve that for not telling me." 1190 01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:20,390 "They took advantage of you. They cheat you, they fuck you, and now they are making a fortune." 1191 01:26:20,400 --> 01:26:22,830 And if you were with them, you could have stopped them. 1192 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:26,270 Of course! I know sarcasm, I know how they think! 1193 01:26:26,520 --> 01:26:29,830 In the moment that they said: "Pussy. Pussycat." - 1194 01:26:30,440 --> 01:26:35,410 I will say to him: "I will smash the face of Brugger! And put him in the mine!" 1195 01:26:35,520 --> 01:26:38,399 And I will smash his face in North Korea, because you cannot prosecute me, - 1196 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,430 - because it's under the laws of the country. 1197 01:26:40,760 --> 01:26:43,230 So I will do that! What the fuck! 1198 01:26:43,240 --> 01:26:45,310 Anyway, never mind about that. 1199 01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:51,360 Sarcasm aside, Alejandro Cao de Benos is a man who thinks big. 1200 01:26:52,720 --> 01:26:55,268 During the meeting in Barcelona, Alejandro tells the mole 1201 01:26:55,269 --> 01:26:59,268 of an ambitious plan for a triangle deal 1202 01:26:59,269 --> 01:27:04,320 involving Mr. James, North Korea and a Jordanian businessman. 1203 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:07,710 This is Hisham Al Dasouki from Jordan. 1204 01:27:08,440 --> 01:27:11,470 He wants to provide fuel to North Korea. 1205 01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:16,110 And Alejandro gets this wise idea that we can make a "triangle deal"... 1206 01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:17,680 Which is...? 1207 01:27:17,800 --> 01:27:21,470 Which is that we send the fuel to North Korea, - 1208 01:27:21,480 --> 01:27:25,790 - and James gets the payment in arms parts and pharmaceuticals - 1209 01:27:25,800 --> 01:27:28,630 - to the island in Uganda. 1210 01:27:28,640 --> 01:27:33,190 The general idea is that you can triangle. 1211 01:27:33,800 --> 01:27:37,990 And no one will ever know... OK, now I get it. 1212 01:27:43,640 --> 01:27:47,828 If the mole could get Mr. James to Spain, Alejandro will introduce him 1213 01:27:47,829 --> 01:27:50,300 to his plans for triangular trading. 1214 01:27:59,400 --> 01:28:04,310 So we set up the meeting in a yacht in the harbour of Barcelona. 1215 01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:07,670 Hello, my friend. 1216 01:28:07,680 --> 01:28:09,870 - Long time, no see. - 1 must say that. 1217 01:28:10,640 --> 01:28:13,070 - How are you? - I'm good. Be careful! 1218 01:28:14,320 --> 01:28:15,390 Good to see you. 1219 01:28:15,960 --> 01:28:17,910 You look young, younger and younger. 1220 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:19,750 I'm trying my best. 1221 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:26,190 Normally, I don't drink, but today... Can you make me one of these? 1222 01:28:26,200 --> 01:28:26,910 Yes, sure. 1223 01:28:26,920 --> 01:28:28,119 - Alejandro? - I have this water, I'm fine. 1224 01:28:28,120 --> 01:28:30,630 Bloody Mary is good. 1225 01:28:38,800 --> 01:28:41,670 So let's start first with the triangle. 1226 01:28:41,680 --> 01:28:43,710 Yes. So, the concept is very easy. 1227 01:28:43,960 --> 01:28:47,110 When we were looking for oil, due to the sanctions, - 1228 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,270 -1 received the order from Pyongyang, from our government, - 1229 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:55,510 - to look for different sources: Someone willing to sell oil to us, - 1230 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:57,190 - who does not mind the sanctions. 1231 01:28:57,480 --> 01:29:03,670 So, this is a deal that our company Narae wanted to do with Mr. Dasouki. 1232 01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:07,830 Mr. Kang told me: "Look, we are also doing" - 1233 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:11,430 - "the business, at the same time, with Mr. James." 1234 01:29:11,440 --> 01:29:15,430 "So, why don't we make a triangle?" 1235 01:29:15,880 --> 01:29:19,590 Instead of you paying to our country, - 1236 01:29:20,000 --> 01:29:24,190 - which is a little complicated because of the sanctions, and so on, - 1237 01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:25,960 - and the nature of the business, especially. 1238 01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:32,190 "So, instead of going direct, why doesn't James pay"... 1239 01:29:32,360 --> 01:29:36,110 Like, let's say, you are buying this oil, - 1240 01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,870 - not the DPRK, although we are the one receiving it, - 1241 01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:43,110 - and then, from this amount, it can be deducted from the contract - 1242 01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:47,590 - and for the operations that you are going to realize in the tourist business. 1243 01:29:48,040 --> 01:29:50,950 - So, we will receive the weapons... - Yes. 1244 01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:54,070 ...and then we give him money, and then he gives oil. 1245 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,310 And he doesn't have any problem with selling oil to North Korea? 1246 01:29:57,320 --> 01:29:58,320 Not at all. 1247 01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:02,190 So he knows how to get the oil there - 1248 01:30:02,200 --> 01:30:05,270 - without getting the boats stopped? - Exactly. Yes. 1249 01:30:05,600 --> 01:30:08,430 - So, he's kind of pirate? - Kind of, yeah. 1250 01:30:09,200 --> 01:30:10,320 Hmm. 1251 01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,910 What is your position in all of this? 1252 01:30:17,760 --> 01:30:21,190 I'm the person who makes things work, let's say it like that, OK? 1253 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:25,470 Like a person arranging everything at an international level, - 1254 01:30:25,760 --> 01:30:27,510 - like a matchmaker, we could say, huh? 1255 01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,310 We could say that, normally, most things come through me, - 1256 01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:40,110 - I'm in the middle of many of the most important transactions of our country. 1257 01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:43,870 And I hold positions which I cannot tell you, in our country, - 1258 01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:46,390 - at a very high level, in the ministries. 1259 01:30:46,520 --> 01:30:49,230 It's a ministry which is over all the other ministries. 1260 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:52,550 So, an agreement like this, you can sign on their behalf? 1261 01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:54,390 Sure. Exactly. 1262 01:30:54,760 --> 01:30:57,870 And guarantee my security...? 1263 01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,150 - Yes, exactly. - OK. Let's see. 1264 01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,710 They just think I will hand over money, - 1265 01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:11,550 - and I'm like: "I'm not handing over any money." 1266 01:31:11,560 --> 01:31:15,550 "I have met you, I have trust in you, but..." - 1267 01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:19,150 "...I want to meet this Mr. Dasouki face to face". 1268 01:31:31,400 --> 01:31:34,218 So my two proxies, the mole and Mr James, 1269 01:31:34,219 --> 01:31:37,108 went to Jordan to find out if there really is a man named 1270 01:31:37,109 --> 01:31:41,120 El Dasouki who wants to triangle with them and North Korea. 1271 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:52,720 Have a nice day. 1272 01:31:58,880 --> 01:32:00,750 - Mr. Dasouki? - How are you? 1273 01:32:00,760 --> 01:32:02,030 Finally, nice to meet you. 1274 01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:04,790 Please come and visit Mr. James. 1275 01:32:05,960 --> 01:32:09,470 - Alejandro sends his greetings. - Yes, he sent an e-mail. 1276 01:32:09,480 --> 01:32:12,510 OK, yeah. I spoke with him yesterday. 1277 01:32:13,480 --> 01:32:15,870 I am happy that we're finally here now. 1278 01:32:16,120 --> 01:32:19,590 Alejandro, really — this man, I like him so much. 1279 01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:21,030 That's good. 1280 01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:26,910 - He is my number one comrade. I love him, too. - He tells me so many things about you. 1281 01:32:26,920 --> 01:32:32,590 - He is very... passionate. - Yes. He is a fighter. 1282 01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:34,430 Please. 1283 01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:36,680 Hello, James. 1284 01:32:37,200 --> 01:32:39,390 - Hello. - Hi, Mr. James. 1285 01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:41,910 - 1 met a nice man in the reception. - Suddenly it happens. 1286 01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:44,670 - Hello. - Welcome, take a seat. 1287 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:46,280 Nice to see you. 1288 01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:47,960 Cheers! 1289 01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:53,950 Just for me to understand the kind of business you do... 1290 01:32:55,480 --> 01:33:01,270 My business now is for two things: chemicals and petroleum, for oil. 1291 01:33:01,600 --> 01:33:06,310 I made some connections with some friends in the government. 1292 01:33:06,320 --> 01:33:09,190 Good business, good idea, trust — That is all you need. 1293 01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:12,710 If you have a bunch of money, all doors are open for you. 1294 01:33:13,640 --> 01:33:18,950 So for your share, you pay off the government, so we are safe? 1295 01:33:20,200 --> 01:33:23,710 That's not your way, it's my spin. It's my side. 1296 01:33:23,720 --> 01:33:25,550 Not your names, not any names. 1297 01:33:25,800 --> 01:33:28,750 Not my name also, to be frank with you. 1298 01:33:28,760 --> 01:33:32,070 Because I must keep my name clean. 1299 01:33:32,080 --> 01:33:35,670 You have a middle man who takes the blame, if there's a problem. 1300 01:33:36,760 --> 01:33:41,910 Because getting things to North Korea right now — it's a bit tricky. 1301 01:33:42,240 --> 01:33:43,310 Yes. 1302 01:33:43,920 --> 01:33:46,710 You have satellites up your ass all the way. 1303 01:33:46,720 --> 01:33:50,110 Each time I export to Korea, - 1304 01:33:50,320 --> 01:33:55,070 - when I come back, I change the name of the ship. 1305 01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,510 Because after you go there once, you get blacklisted. 1306 01:33:58,760 --> 01:34:01,830 An important thing to do, when you import or export... 1307 01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:06,590 ...don't sail your ship directly. 1308 01:34:06,600 --> 01:34:10,830 There must be a point to stop and change documents, and then go. 1309 01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:14,270 If you need, I can help you with that. 1310 01:34:14,560 --> 01:34:15,830 Something dangerous, 1311 01:34:16,440 --> 01:34:19,110 Like a machine, 1312 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,270 I can do this. I know how to do it. 1313 01:34:24,740 --> 01:34:26,240 I guess that's the food. 1314 01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,670 Hello. Please come in. 1315 01:34:34,240 --> 01:34:35,790 I just go to the bathroom. 1316 01:34:35,160 --> 01:34:36,680 Yeah, sure, sure, sure. 1317 01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:38,710 It is out here, right? Yes. 1318 01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:49,030 And we decided to meet up the next day - 1319 01:34:49,040 --> 01:34:51,070 - for signing the contract. 1320 01:34:52,920 --> 01:34:55,630 Nice to see you again, my friend. Thank you so much. 1321 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,390 Thank you. 1322 01:35:00,200 --> 01:35:01,910 Let's do business. 1323 01:35:08,560 --> 01:35:10,550 This is my Russian visa document. 1324 01:35:12,520 --> 01:35:15,390 - This is for trading the oil. - OK. 1325 01:35:15,680 --> 01:35:18,310 To take it out from Russia, to Jordan, - 1326 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:21,190 - then to Dubai, and from Dubai send it... 1327 01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:26,750 So when you go from Vladivostok you go out, international, - 1328 01:35:26,760 --> 01:35:30,430 - and you go back to Nampo or something, with another vessel, or just change the name? 1329 01:35:30,440 --> 01:35:32,150 Different ways of doing this. 1330 01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:35,390 Sometimes, it can go into that boat, my boat, - 1331 01:35:35,980 --> 01:35:37,590 - all you like, to North Korea. 1332 01:35:38,600 --> 01:35:39,950 Sometimes, you cannot go, - 1333 01:35:40,340 --> 01:35:42,030 - you must change in international waters. 1334 01:35:42,040 --> 01:35:42,910 Yeah, yeah. 1335 01:35:42,920 --> 01:35:45,830 If you're not in a hurry, it takes 30—40 days, - 1336 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,670 - because of the long way to go... 1337 01:35:48,980 --> 01:35:50,910 Yes, they need to... Exactly. 1338 01:35:51,640 --> 01:35:56,030 ...to get far away from the controlling systems. 1339 01:35:56,760 --> 01:36:00,710 The government of Russia gives you the contracts... 1340 01:36:02,200 --> 01:36:04,190 10 thousand? 10 million? 1341 01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:07,630 ...and you can sail anywhere, it's up to you. 1342 01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:11,550 OK, yeah. I understand. 1343 01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:15,790 - It's like mafia. - OK. We are the mafia. 1344 01:36:15,800 --> 01:36:18,630 They are mafia! And we are the same! 1345 01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:20,550 We are the same. Yeah. 1346 01:36:25,880 --> 01:36:27,270 Finally. 1347 01:36:27,640 --> 01:36:30,790 I also need a picture with Mr. Dasouki for Alejandro. 1348 01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:38,948 So was the contract actually signed? 1349 01:36:38,949 --> 01:36:40,540 They signed the contract. 1350 01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:43,200 For how much? 1351 01:36:44,280 --> 01:36:46,230 - I think, at that point... 1352 01:36:47,320 --> 01:36:51,230 ...it was around 3.2 million US dollars. 1353 01:36:56,360 --> 01:36:59,190 - We'll do it soon. - Thank you very much. 1354 01:37:01,280 --> 01:37:05,310 Not to be rude, but could I have five minutes alone...? 1355 01:37:05,320 --> 01:37:06,590 Yeah. 1356 01:37:10,000 --> 01:37:12,310 I'll just take a sip outside. 1357 01:37:15,280 --> 01:37:18,710 I'll bring my coffee. I'll come back in five minutes. 1358 01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:26,590 So Ulrich leaves the room, but I'm still recording the conversation. 1359 01:37:27,360 --> 01:37:30,950 And you can ensure that the government will not interfere? 1360 01:37:32,600 --> 01:37:36,470 This is something personal between me and you. 1361 01:37:36,760 --> 01:37:40,510 I am working with [...]. 1362 01:37:40,760 --> 01:37:43,990 He is one of my friends. That's all. 1363 01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:45,590 - OK. - OK. 1364 01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:53,348 Here, El Dasouki mentions a major Jordanian power broker, 1365 01:37:53,349 --> 01:37:57,200 but, due to legal reasons, his name cannot be disclosed. 1366 01:38:00,280 --> 01:38:02,628 Next, the mole was asked to go to Sweden 1367 01:38:02,629 --> 01:38:05,588 because a package was waiting for him to be picked up 1368 01:38:05,589 --> 01:38:08,040 at the North Korean embassy in Stockholm. 1369 01:38:10,040 --> 01:38:11,190 Hello, Ri, I'm here. 1370 01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:12,750 - How are you? - I'm fine. 1371 01:38:12,760 --> 01:38:14,670 The sun is so beautiful today. 1372 01:38:15,080 --> 01:38:16,470 So, Kang wrote me. 1373 01:38:16,480 --> 01:38:18,910 Yeah, he sent these photos for you to check. 1374 01:38:19,000 --> 01:38:20,190 Thank you. 1375 01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:25,350 I went to the embassy in Stockholm to pick up some drawings. 1376 01:38:27,320 --> 01:38:30,270 What you see here is actually a North Korean design - 1377 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:34,750 - of how we can build our weapons/pharmaceutical factory - 1378 01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:36,910 - in Uganda. - Ah. OK. 1379 01:38:36,920 --> 01:38:40,670 It looks great! Outside it looks like a resort, yeah? 1380 01:38:40,680 --> 01:38:42,710 Exactly. That's why we need... 1381 01:38:42,720 --> 01:38:45,270 But inside it looks so smart, you know? 1382 01:38:45,280 --> 01:38:47,470 - It's like from a movie. - Yeah. 1383 01:38:47,680 --> 01:38:49,200 Like my sort of movie! 1384 01:38:52,160 --> 01:38:54,430 This is actually how it will look from above. 1385 01:38:56,840 --> 01:38:59,550 - A golf course here? - It could be, yeah. 1386 01:38:59,560 --> 01:39:00,910 - That's great. - Yeah. 1387 01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:04,830 What about the hotel title? 1388 01:39:04,840 --> 01:39:07,510 What are you going to title it? 1389 01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:12,790 I know they are going to have some meetings with the investor about all those details now. 1390 01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:16,590 Not something that smells like DPRK. 1391 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:17,600 - Exactly. - Yes. 1392 01:39:21,280 --> 01:39:22,320 So... 1393 01:39:25,240 --> 01:39:30,230 I hope this is going to be successful, just keep it confidential. 1394 01:39:30,240 --> 01:39:32,790 Confidential. Of course. Yeah. 1395 01:39:35,000 --> 01:39:38,550 If something happens, our embassy knows nothing about this, OK? 1396 01:39:38,560 --> 01:39:39,830 Exactly. 1397 01:39:50,400 --> 01:39:51,560 Thank you for the ride. 1398 01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,470 Hello. 1399 01:39:59,480 --> 01:40:01,630 This is one of the staff of Mr. James. 1400 01:40:01,880 --> 01:40:03,670 He will lead us to the room. 1401 01:40:05,200 --> 01:40:07,988 Then, in this tale of intrigue and deception, 1402 01:40:07,989 --> 01:40:10,148 a new character made his appearance. 1403 01:40:10,149 --> 01:40:14,068 It was Mr. Ju, a North Korean envoy who came to Copenhagen 1404 01:40:14,069 --> 01:40:16,588 to do business with Mr. James. 1405 01:40:16,589 --> 01:40:20,468 Last time the world met Mr. Ju was on the Australian version 1406 01:40:20,469 --> 01:40:24,228 of 60 Minutes, where he acts as a smiling mouthpiece 1407 01:40:24,229 --> 01:40:26,780 for the regime in Pyongyang. 1408 01:40:26,960 --> 01:40:29,190 We were weak, but now we are strong. 1409 01:40:29,960 --> 01:40:33,230 Single-hearted unity, a great leadership, - 1410 01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:35,190 - and we have the ICBMs, - 1411 01:40:35,200 --> 01:40:38,830 - so I usually say to Donald Trump: "Come, come, come to me." 1412 01:40:38,840 --> 01:40:41,630 "I will choke you with my H-bombs." 1413 01:40:43,320 --> 01:40:44,320 Wow. 1414 01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:49,990 I planned my trip to Denmark in order to expand the tourism market into Scandinavian countries. 1415 01:40:50,000 --> 01:40:50,950 And... 1416 01:40:50,960 --> 01:40:54,910 What is your connection to our collaboration partners? 1417 01:40:56,600 --> 01:41:00,910 I have a close friendship with Mr. Kang for many years. 1418 01:41:01,880 --> 01:41:07,150 Mr. Kang asked me to pick up the weapon deals of the Narae Trade Company, - 1419 01:41:09,160 --> 01:41:12,310 - to sign the contract. I have the document here. 1420 01:41:17,880 --> 01:41:25,550 And also he wants me to be the communicator of "The Tourism Project". 1421 01:41:26,080 --> 01:41:29,270 - In Uganda? - Yeah, in Uganda. 1422 01:41:29,280 --> 01:41:32,990 The contract stipulates the triangle deal in print: 1423 01:41:33,960 --> 01:41:37,870 Oil purchased by Mr. James goes to North Korea, - 1424 01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:43,110 - and in return, North Korea sends products and technicians to the island in Uganda, - 1425 01:41:43,120 --> 01:41:45,150 - where "tourist goods” will be made. 1426 01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,350 And here you go. And you have my pen. 1427 01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:58,390 Danish tradition. Actually, you have the hotel's pen. 1428 01:42:00,380 --> 01:42:02,720 And did Alejandro know about this deal as well? 1429 01:42:03,320 --> 01:42:05,030 He was very well aware of it. 1430 01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:07,230 - Cheers! - Cheers! 1431 01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:11,350 Oooh! 1432 01:42:11,640 --> 01:42:14,030 Exactly. Let's try this one. 1433 01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:16,748 Now the North Koreans would discover 1434 01:42:16,749 --> 01:42:20,280 that Denmark, also, is a very alcoholised country. 1435 01:42:21,160 --> 01:42:23,110 Cheers! All in one. 1436 01:42:28,040 --> 01:42:30,659 Look at him. Oh, no, no. You have to... 1437 01:42:30,660 --> 01:42:32,160 Chin-chin! 1438 01:42:38,280 --> 01:42:42,150 So we visited The Little Mermaid, - 1439 01:42:42,480 --> 01:42:44,990 - but they were so drunk, I don't think they even remember. 1440 01:42:46,520 --> 01:42:50,508 Had Mr. James chosen to honour the contract he signed in Copenhagen, 1441 01:42:50,509 --> 01:42:53,748 he would have to wire millions of dollars to El Dasouki 1442 01:42:53,749 --> 01:42:57,268 in Jordan as payment for oil to North Korea. 1443 01:42:57,269 --> 01:43:00,908 In return, North Korea would deliver manpower and products 1444 01:43:00,909 --> 01:43:04,600 to the island of Mr. James and so goes the triangle trade. 1445 01:43:05,240 --> 01:43:07,110 - We can triangle. - Exactly. 1446 01:43:07,120 --> 01:43:09,668 From his office in Jordan, El Dasouki was now 1447 01:43:09,669 --> 01:43:13,668 threatening legal action unless Mr James honoured their contract 1448 01:43:13,669 --> 01:43:15,080 and showed him the money. 1449 01:43:17,820 --> 01:43:20,988 Meanwhile, the North Korean weapons dealer, Mr. Danny, 1450 01:43:20,989 --> 01:43:25,388 who we met in Uganda, was pushing for a meeting with Mr. James 1451 01:43:25,389 --> 01:43:27,900 in order to "speed up" the business. 1452 01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:32,938 They met in a hotel in Cambodia, 1453 01:43:32,939 --> 01:43:37,940 where Mr. James was taken to the next level in the circle of trust. 1454 01:43:39,440 --> 01:43:43,670 He gave me a new order list while I was down there. 1455 01:43:43,680 --> 01:43:46,670 - So, may I explain... - Yeah. 1456 01:43:46,680 --> 01:43:48,830 About the special items business, yes. 1457 01:43:48,840 --> 01:43:51,470 It is not a common thing. 1458 01:43:51,480 --> 01:43:52,230 OK. 1459 01:43:52,240 --> 01:43:53,830 This one, the number 1... 1460 01:43:53,840 --> 01:43:57,070 ...it's to attack the enemy tanks. 1461 01:43:58,920 --> 01:44:01,750 Then number 11, can attack a drone. 1462 01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:05,790 It sends a very powerful impulse to the drone... 1463 01:44:05,800 --> 01:44:08,590 ...and then the drone will... drop. 1464 01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:09,830 Like that. 1465 01:44:12,220 --> 01:44:15,948 In Cambodia, it became apparent that the sanctions are working. 1466 01:44:15,949 --> 01:44:19,148 The North Koreans are desperate to find clients who will buy 1467 01:44:19,149 --> 01:44:24,120 their weapons and it seems like Mr James is their big white hope. 1468 01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:28,670 Now, in Syria with the IS already defeated, - 1469 01:44:29,000 --> 01:44:31,479 - so in this situation, it's very difficult for us to find clients - 1470 01:44:31,480 --> 01:44:37,950 - who want to buy some of this military armament. 1471 01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:41,270 If you have any clients, we can supply them through you. 1472 01:44:43,880 --> 01:44:48,950 If I'm saying: "Ok, listen, guys, we wanna buy a huge amount of weapons", 1473 01:44:49,200 --> 01:44:50,390 - we can get that. 1474 01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,538 And what about the triangulation deal? 1475 01:44:52,539 --> 01:44:54,240 Where's that left at the moment? 1476 01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:58,230 We have the island. We could start that project tomorrow. 1477 01:44:58,680 --> 01:45:00,628 - So this is where you left it? - Yeah. 1478 01:45:00,629 --> 01:45:01,820 They still trust you. 1479 01:45:02,360 --> 01:45:03,590 Yeah. For now. 1480 01:45:04,560 --> 01:45:05,948 But not for long. 1481 01:45:05,949 --> 01:45:08,348 The investigation had gone as far as it could, 1482 01:45:08,349 --> 01:45:10,628 so Mr. James had to disappear. 1483 01:45:10,629 --> 01:45:13,908 Thanks to my intervention, Mr. James went off the grid 1484 01:45:13,909 --> 01:45:18,868 and simply vanished, no longer answering his phone nor his emails. 1485 01:45:18,869 --> 01:45:22,300 In short, Mr. James became a ghost. 1486 01:45:26,040 --> 01:45:28,868 Meanwhile, the mole was taking care of business 1487 01:45:28,869 --> 01:45:30,960 as the KFA delegate of Scandinavia. 1488 01:45:32,000 --> 01:45:35,698 First, he went to London to protest against the BBC, 1489 01:45:35,699 --> 01:45:37,428 together with his comrade in arms, 1490 01:45:37,429 --> 01:45:40,828 the British delegate of the Korean Friendship Association, 1491 01:45:40,829 --> 01:45:42,320 Mr. Dermot Hodgson. 1492 01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,910 Hello, everybody, this is Ulrich and Dermot. 1493 01:45:46,920 --> 01:45:49,310 We are at the BBC, which is the... 1494 01:45:49,320 --> 01:45:52,310 ...British Brainwashing Corporation. 1495 01:45:58,120 --> 01:46:01,630 The BBC are continuing their lies about People's Korea. 1496 01:46:04,720 --> 01:46:08,348 Then the mole went to Spain for his last in-person meeting 1497 01:46:08,349 --> 01:46:10,920 with his president, Alejandro Cao de Benos. 1498 01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:17,270 Oh! Thank you very much! 1499 01:46:17,280 --> 01:46:19,630 You insist, I insist, OK. 1500 01:46:19,740 --> 01:46:21,800 Several items were on the agenda. 1501 01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:25,190 Dermot, he is British, and I've been in his home. 1502 01:46:25,200 --> 01:46:29,310 So frankly speaking, British tend to be quite dirty. 1503 01:46:29,640 --> 01:46:32,890 They love dirty, mouldy, rusty things... 1504 01:46:33,120 --> 01:46:35,590 It's like, they love it. 1505 01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:35,440 And old carpets on the floor. 1506 01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:40,270 Not only old carpets, but he enters with the boots full with mud. 1507 01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,310 Mud! In the house, you know? 1508 01:46:42,680 --> 01:46:46,560 But most important was the sudden disappearance of Mr. James. 1509 01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:54,030 It's difficult to trust people you don't know. And even people you know. Like James. 1510 01:46:54,400 --> 01:46:59,550 Yes, that really made us lose a lot of money, a lot of time... 1511 01:46:59,560 --> 01:47:01,030 To you, to me, to Korea... 1512 01:47:01,400 --> 01:47:03,550 I feel myself like a big idiot. 1513 01:47:03,880 --> 01:47:06,310 Am I the right guy in KFA now? 1514 01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:07,790 Because I feel responsible... 1515 01:47:08,080 --> 01:47:10,790 No, because we know exactly who you are. 1516 01:47:10,800 --> 01:47:12,070 And we know who he is... 1517 01:47:12,680 --> 01:47:18,670 I have some meetings with this kind of rich men, I'm used to this kind. 1518 01:47:18,680 --> 01:47:21,550 The exception is people like Mr. Dasouki, - 1519 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:25,830 - who is a very rich man, very powerful, very influential... but a very humble person. 1520 01:47:26,280 --> 01:47:33,550 James is an opportunistic person, who just wants to push out everyone, without recognising their work. 1521 01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:38,070 You have been loyal, even as a servant. More than loyal. 1522 01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:40,230 Frankly speaking... I didn't tell you. 1523 01:47:40,240 --> 01:47:46,550 The way you treated him and the way he treated you, it was like from servant to the lord. 1524 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:51,190 "Give me a Bloody Mary. What do you want, Alejandro? Then serve me, Mr. Ulrich..." 1525 01:47:51,200 --> 01:47:58,670 Of course you are my comrade. I felt so bad, seeing you. 1526 01:47:58,680 --> 01:48:01,670 But we are playing a game, so I had to accept that. 1527 01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:04,470 I was also playing my games for him. 1528 01:48:04,600 --> 01:48:09,390 I know that. We are all playing games. 1529 01:48:12,720 --> 01:48:16,790 You know that you must have people that you can fully trust. 1530 01:48:16,800 --> 01:48:21,070 Because, if only one goes to the CIA... Only one. 1531 01:48:21,080 --> 01:48:23,030 You are fucked forever. 1532 01:48:26,760 --> 01:48:28,218 To top it off, 1533 01:48:28,219 --> 01:48:32,230 the mole had been chosen as the host of the annual KFA meeting. 1534 01:48:32,590 --> 01:48:37,618 All along, as the puppet master, it was I who wrote the speeches for the mole 1535 01:48:37,619 --> 01:48:40,919 and now he would deliver his final sermon. 1536 01:48:40,920 --> 01:48:42,070 Dear comrades! 1537 01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:43,950 The KFA is at war. We are at war! 1538 01:48:43,960 --> 01:48:47,270 And we have every right to wage war against our enemies. 1539 01:48:47,840 --> 01:48:51,150 Because one person can change the outcome of history. 1540 01:48:52,680 --> 01:48:54,790 "But, what about me?", you might ask. 1541 01:48:55,200 --> 01:48:58,230 "What have you been doing as a KFA delegate for Scandinavia?" 1542 01:48:58,760 --> 01:49:02,590 I will here present you, "The Tourist Project". 1543 01:49:04,840 --> 01:49:06,430 Here it is. 1544 01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:10,390 Mana, can you take this one down, please? 1545 01:49:16,050 --> 01:49:18,598 As I had planned it, the mole would share the fruits 1546 01:49:18,599 --> 01:49:21,545 of the top-secret work he had been doing with his mentor Alejandro. 1547 01:49:21,546 --> 01:49:24,110 Beautiful hotel with swimming pools and hotel rooms, - 1548 01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:26,750 - meeting areas, golf course... 1549 01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:31,790 Of course The Mole would only use the coded phrases for methamphetamine and weapons - 1550 01:49:31,800 --> 01:49:34,750 - which Alejandro Cao de Bends had taught him in the bunker in Spain. 1551 01:49:34,760 --> 01:49:39,430 When referring to something that you eat, it's a seafood, canned seafood. 1552 01:49:39,440 --> 01:49:41,910 And when you are talking about the other thing - 1553 01:49:41,920 --> 01:49:45,590 - you can talk about for example, let's talk about... 1554 01:49:46,040 --> 01:49:48,150 Wood. Wood handicraft. 1555 01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:49,190 Wood handicraft, yes. 1556 01:49:49,200 --> 01:49:51,510 Made by hand, by the native people. 1557 01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:52,470 Yes. 1558 01:49:52,480 --> 01:49:58,070 In those rooms here, it will be possible to produce organic seafood or wooden handicrafts. 1559 01:49:59,200 --> 01:50:00,990 There's built a road up here. 1560 01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:03,150 Which will go up to an airstrip. 1561 01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:05,830 So we can fly out our products. 1562 01:50:06,400 --> 01:50:07,630 To sell in the world. 1563 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,110 You're welcome to come up and take pictures, if you like. 1564 01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,910 Thank you. I'm sorry for the interruption... 1565 01:50:20,420 --> 01:50:22,478 Following the annual KFA meeting, 1566 01:50:22,479 --> 01:50:25,178 one member of the Korean Friendship Association 1567 01:50:25,179 --> 01:50:28,570 praised the Tourist Project on the message board of the KFA. 1568 01:50:29,810 --> 01:50:34,118 Alejandro told the mole to delete everything at once. 1569 01:50:34,119 --> 01:50:37,838 Also, a member named Jean Paul left the KFA 1570 01:50:37,839 --> 01:50:40,610 because he panicked about spying and hacking. 1571 01:50:46,650 --> 01:50:47,888 At the end of this, 1572 01:50:47,889 --> 01:50:51,808 I hired the former intelligence officer Annie Machon. 1573 01:50:51,809 --> 01:50:54,488 Before she went rogue and became a whistleblower, 1574 01:50:54,489 --> 01:50:57,450 she was working for the British security service, the MI5. 1575 01:50:58,700 --> 01:51:02,008 Her exploits as a whistleblower have made her controversial, 1576 01:51:02,009 --> 01:51:04,328 but that is of no concern to me. 1577 01:51:04,329 --> 01:51:08,168 I am only interested in her qualifications as a spy. 1578 01:51:08,169 --> 01:51:11,768 Running long-time undercover agents was her line of work, 1579 01:51:11,769 --> 01:51:15,808 as was debriefing agents at the end of their missions. 1580 01:51:15,809 --> 01:51:19,128 If someone has put ten years of their life into doing something, 1581 01:51:19,129 --> 01:51:22,248 and they've been very solitary in what they're doing, 1582 01:51:22,249 --> 01:51:25,928 they do need a chance just to tell someone exactly 1583 01:51:25,929 --> 01:51:28,088 what they went through. 1584 01:51:28,089 --> 01:51:31,088 It's almost like a confessional. 1585 01:51:31,089 --> 01:51:34,088 And, of course, you do want to, to reward them at the end of it, 1586 01:51:34,089 --> 01:51:37,608 even if it's just with a recognition they can't really tell anyone about, 1587 01:51:37,609 --> 01:51:39,848 apart from perhaps their wife or their husband. 1588 01:51:39,849 --> 01:51:41,928 But it is that recognition that's very important 1589 01:51:41,929 --> 01:51:44,328 when they've been working undercover for so long. 1590 01:51:44,329 --> 01:51:46,528 Such as a lavish dinner? 1591 01:51:46,529 --> 01:51:48,900 A lavish dinner usually works very well, yes. 1592 01:51:51,730 --> 01:51:54,848 And I want to raise a toast to you both for what you have achieved. 1593 01:51:54,849 --> 01:51:56,648 I think it's probably the 1594 01:51:56,649 --> 01:52:00,288 most impressive private intelligence operation 1595 01:52:00,289 --> 01:52:01,820 I've ever heard of. 1596 01:52:04,210 --> 01:52:06,568 How are you going to protect these two guys 1597 01:52:06,569 --> 01:52:09,098 from any reprisals from the North Koreans? 1598 01:52:09,099 --> 01:52:12,220 Regarding Mr. James, he simply refuses to be 1599 01:52:13,490 --> 01:52:18,088 you know, protected or advised about security. 1600 01:52:18,089 --> 01:52:19,089 Okay. 1601 01:52:20,250 --> 01:52:24,499 We have prepared for an after-care programme for the mole, 1602 01:52:24,500 --> 01:52:26,850 also taking care of his security. 1603 01:52:27,810 --> 01:52:29,048 And his family? 1604 01:52:29,049 --> 01:52:30,140 And his family as well. 1605 01:52:31,770 --> 01:52:37,648 What I am more concerned about regarding the mole is that 1606 01:52:37,649 --> 01:52:40,860 being the mole has been a part of his identity 1607 01:52:41,049 --> 01:52:43,819 for more than ten years, you know? 1608 01:52:43,820 --> 01:52:46,980 So, what will happen when we bring him in? 1609 01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:52,808 Entering any form of secret-type world is very seductive. 1610 01:52:52,809 --> 01:52:54,728 I know from personal experience. 1611 01:52:54,729 --> 01:52:57,088 And, for those who have been living a double life, 1612 01:52:57,089 --> 01:53:01,008 with all the danger and the adrenaline rush and everything, 1613 01:53:01,009 --> 01:53:04,660 it is incredibly difficult, often, to go back to mundane reality. 1614 01:53:09,130 --> 01:53:12,140 In the long-run, we all must face reality. 1615 01:53:16,810 --> 01:53:19,448 So, finally, I went to the suburbs of Copenhagen 1616 01:53:19,449 --> 01:53:20,968 to see where the mole lives 1617 01:53:20,969 --> 01:53:22,890 and meet with him and his wife. 1618 01:53:23,280 --> 01:53:24,630 Yes, but... 1619 01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:29,790 Ulrich has something he wants to tell you. 1620 01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,510 A very long story. 1621 01:53:35,850 --> 01:53:37,706 It is a long story, 1622 01:53:37,707 --> 01:53:39,250 but let's cut to the ending. 1623 01:53:38,160 --> 01:53:39,830 In a way, I'm a bit proud of myself. 1624 01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:41,950 And I hope that you can... 1625 01:53:41,960 --> 01:53:42,960 ...in a way... 1626 01:53:45,680 --> 01:53:47,150 ...be a bit impressed... 1627 01:53:48,360 --> 01:53:49,870 ...of what I've tried to achieve. 1628 01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:52,110 ...to document for the world to see. 1629 01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:57,710 I'm simply shaken. 1630 01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:01,230 And I think that you are an idiot, - 1631 01:54:01,240 --> 01:54:03,390 - because you haven't told me anything. 1632 01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:05,360 Yes. 1633 01:54:05,960 --> 01:54:07,550 It's lies upon lies. 1634 01:54:08,960 --> 01:54:10,870 I think this is fucking hard. 1635 01:54:14,160 --> 01:54:18,390 There is something I want to say in defense of Ulrich. 1636 01:54:20,560 --> 01:54:21,560 It's... 1637 01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:24,310 It's important to say. 1638 01:54:24,680 --> 01:54:28,510 Ulrich is one of the bravest people I have ever met. 1639 01:54:32,360 --> 01:54:37,710 On an everyday basis you don't see him as brave. 1640 01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:42,030 Then it's more like: "Get your act together and do some cleaning." 1641 01:54:42,440 --> 01:54:45,870 He has distanced himself a lot from the family. 1642 01:54:46,440 --> 01:54:49,790 More and more and more... He is disappearing. 1643 01:54:50,800 --> 01:54:54,670 Now it's been going on for ten —eleven years, I don't know... 1644 01:54:55,840 --> 01:54:56,840 Yes. 1645 01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:04,510 But it has been crazy. It has been crazy for me. 1646 01:55:04,920 --> 01:55:06,510 Not being able to tell you anything. 1647 01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,470 I have often wondered: "What are you thinking?" 1648 01:55:09,960 --> 01:55:11,310 I haven't thought so much. 1649 01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:15,550 I am thinking more about what will happen now. 1650 01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:19,830 When we are at the end of the road. 1651 01:55:21,000 --> 01:55:25,670 And what consequences it will have for us as a family... 1652 01:55:41,600 --> 01:55:45,630 You will be seated there, and I'll be over here. 1653 01:55:50,680 --> 01:55:55,110 The only thing left was an even more difficult conversation. 1654 01:55:57,040 --> 01:56:00,150 My heart is beating fast. 1655 01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:12,750 - Hello. - Hello Alejandro. I can't see you. 1656 01:56:13,080 --> 01:56:15,270 Oh! "Start Video" Ok. 1657 01:56:17,840 --> 01:56:19,230 How are you? 1658 01:56:19,240 --> 01:56:20,470 Yes fine and you? 1659 01:56:20,480 --> 01:56:22,550 Well, I'm fine, so that's nice. 1660 01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:26,190 Alejandro, before we get started I have a few things I want to tell you. 1661 01:56:26,200 --> 01:56:27,510 Yes. 1662 01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,390 First of all, why I have been so interested in North Korea. 1663 01:56:31,240 --> 01:56:34,150 And also to find out the truth about you. 1664 01:56:35,280 --> 01:56:38,750 All our meetings together have actually been filmed. 1665 01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:41,430 And I have been acting like a mole. 1666 01:56:41,720 --> 01:56:44,110 Because I am making a film, with you. 1667 01:56:44,120 --> 01:56:48,870 And I would really much like you to meet the instructor who's been helping me through this movie. 1668 01:56:48,880 --> 01:56:52,030 I hope you will answer his questions. So, please meet him here. 1669 01:56:53,360 --> 01:56:54,910 Hello Alejandro. 1670 01:56:55,360 --> 01:56:56,430 Yes hello. 1671 01:56:56,440 --> 01:56:57,910 We meet again. 1672 01:56:58,800 --> 01:56:59,800 Yeah. 1673 01:56:59,960 --> 01:57:01,550 We are recording this conversation. 1674 01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,270 And I should inform you that - 1675 01:57:04,280 --> 01:57:07,590 - everything is on tape, and we basically know everything. 1676 01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:10,350 So this is the end of a very long story. 1677 01:57:12,600 --> 01:57:14,630 Alejandro, are you there? 1678 01:57:32,840 --> 01:57:34,750 He disconnected. 1679 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:39,190 He raised his hand and pressed the stop button. 1680 01:57:40,360 --> 01:57:43,790 When he appeared on screen I was close to running for the toilet. 1681 01:57:44,160 --> 01:57:46,350 But when I opened my mouth, - 1682 01:57:47,040 --> 01:57:49,710 - then I was kind of back in... 1683 01:57:51,360 --> 01:57:53,630 ...the role of The Mole. 1684 01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:57,350 But yes. 1685 01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,310 Would you like to be The Mole again? 1686 01:57:59,680 --> 01:58:01,270 Not the same way. 1687 01:58:03,800 --> 01:58:05,790 Well, you never know. 1688 01:58:10,360 --> 01:58:11,630 Great. 1689 01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:17,030 Can we watch it?